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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@gmail.com>
Cc: 57325@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57325: 27.1; functions in ff-other-file-alist
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2022 21:55:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h725bf4w.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fshpjviu.fsf@betli.tmit.bme.hu> (message from Felician Nemeth on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 20:34:17 +0200)

> From: Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2022 20:34:17 +0200
> 
> First, the documentation of ff-other-file-alist fails to mention that
> the value of the variable does not have to be alist, it can be a symbol
> as well.

Thanks, now fixed on the emacs-28 branch.

> More importantly, if the associated value is a function, then there's no
> way for the function to signal that it cannot find a related file.

That's on purpose: this package's design causes such a situation to
make no sense.  Imagine that I wrote a C source file and what now to
"find" the corresponding header file.  If that header file doesn't
exist, I need to write it and save it.  Which is why
ff-find-the-other-file behaves like it does: if the file doesn't
exist, it visits that file as a new one and lets me edit it.

What would you have the package do instead when "the other" file is
not found?

> If the function returns "/nonexistent", then ff-find-the-other-file
> (with the default settings) will try to create "/nonexistent".
> 
> If the function returns nil, then ff-find-the-other-file will call
> ff-get-file-name and:
> 
>   (ff-get-file-name '("." "/usr/include" "/usr/local/include/*") nil nil)
>   ==> "/home/nemethf/.emacs.d/News/drafts/drafts/679"
> 
> "emacs -Q -l bug.el" reproduces the problem by setting
> uniquify-buffer-name-style.  However, my uniquify-buffer-name-style is
> 'forward and not nil.  Maybe Gnus changes uniquify-buffer-name-style
> under the hood, because drafts/679 corresponds to a buffer named
> "*sent wide reply to Somebody*<2>".
> 
> I tend to think this bug in line 577 of find-file.el:
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/lisp/find-file.el?id=958924a8126cf532d44c4b446d13ed744438cc9b#n577
> But I don't understand the purpose of that string-match-p.

It looks for buffers which were uniquified.  But I don't think I
understand what you don't understand there, nor how that part is
related to the issue you are raising, which AFAIU is that the function
cannot meaningfully signal a failure.  Please elaborate.

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-21 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-21 18:34 bug#57325: 27.1; functions in ff-other-file-alist Felician Nemeth
2022-08-21 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-08-21 19:37   ` Felician Nemeth
2022-08-22 11:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-25  8:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-29 11:57         ` Felician Nemeth
2022-08-29 14:04           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-29 14:27             ` Felician Nemeth
2022-08-29 16:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-30  8:46                 ` Felician Nemeth
2022-08-30 12:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-30 13:48                     ` Felician Nemeth
2022-08-30 16:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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