From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 24510@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24510: 25.1; Info: searching for ` does not find what looks like `
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:54:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83d1jvds1t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f9c8f95-a04d-4e94-9c17-8a348bf89215@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:58:49 -0700 (PDT))
> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:58:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: 24510@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > But if 2 characters from 2 different fonts look the same on your
> > system, I think you should customize the Info faces to countermand
> > that. I don't see any other solution.
>
> Again, this is emacs -Q.
That doesn't matter, since Emacs doesn't control the fonts installed
on the user's system, much less how they look. Like I said: if some
user cannot distinguish between these characters, I see no other
solution for the problem except font customizations, since only the
user on her system can DTRT with the fonts that are available.
> The chars look quite different with my own setup - this is not a
> problem for me, personally.
Then what exactly is the nature of the problem you raise? Is it a
hypothetical issue that _might_ happen on someone's machine, even
though none of us, including yourself, have actually witnessed it?
> > It might, if you turn on character-folding in Isearch.
> > Unfortunately, that is off by default.
>
> I did mention that this is what a user sees by DEFAULT, no?
Weren't you one of those who lobbied for turning the character-folding
off by default? If it were not for that lobbying, your search would
have succeeded.
> > Emacs doesn't provide any fonts. Your system does. On my system,
> > these two characters look different, even with my old weary eyes.
>
> They look slightly different, yes. Barely noticeable when you
> see them side by side (see screenshot).
The look quite different to me (my system uses the same font), so I
guess we will have to agree to disagree about that.
> If you do not want to accept that this is an obvious gotcha, fine.
> Perhaps you will hear from other users about this; perhaps not.
>
> > > Hard to believe this annoyance has gotten as far as it has (release
> > > 25.1). Did no one try searching our manuals using Emacs -Q?
> >
> > We did. It works for me.
>
> If it works for you then that's all we can hope for, I guess.
I'm not dismissing the problem. I'm saying that I don't see a
solution except through user customizations. Searching for similarly
looking characters is not specific to Info, it can happen elsewhere.
Users who bump into that frequently should customize their fonts
and/or turn on character-folding in search commands.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-23 6:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-22 17:04 bug#24510: 25.1; Info: searching for ` does not find what looks like ` Drew Adams
2016-09-22 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-22 19:58 ` Drew Adams
2016-09-22 20:41 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-22 21:16 ` Drew Adams
2016-09-23 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-09-22 20:02 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-22 22:10 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-09-22 22:27 ` Drew Adams
2022-04-28 10:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 16:12 ` Drew Adams
2022-04-28 17:38 ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-28 18:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 19:00 ` Drew Adams
2022-04-29 6:51 ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-29 10:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-29 15:06 ` Drew Adams
2022-04-29 17:17 ` Juri Linkov
2022-04-30 11:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-01 17:11 ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-01 18:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-02 16:12 ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-03 10:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-03 14:58 ` Drew Adams
2022-05-03 17:29 ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-03 18:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-03 19:26 ` Drew Adams
2022-05-05 16:20 ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-05 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2022-05-06 23:20 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-06 11:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-06 14:40 ` Drew Adams
2022-05-06 15:32 ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-06 17:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-03 19:23 ` Drew Adams
2022-04-29 15:01 ` Drew Adams
2022-04-28 18:58 ` Drew Adams
[not found] <<6905ca6f-0573-4a2b-b346-d5df47862e09@default>
[not found] ` <<83intneq2g.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<7f9c8f95-a04d-4e94-9c17-8a348bf89215@default>
[not found] ` <<83d1jvds1t.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-09-23 16:02 ` Drew Adams
2016-09-23 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-23 20:07 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-24 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 16:30 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-24 17:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 17:24 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-24 17:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 18:14 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-24 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 18:40 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-24 19:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-24 18:14 ` Drew Adams
[not found] <<<6905ca6f-0573-4a2b-b346-d5df47862e09@default>
[not found] ` <<<83intneq2g.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<<7f9c8f95-a04d-4e94-9c17-8a348bf89215@default>
[not found] ` <<<83d1jvds1t.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<c5f5356e-222a-48b0-9b80-dd242f982cec@default>
[not found] ` <<83mviycxse.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-09-23 21:47 ` Drew Adams
2016-09-24 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-25 8:07 ` Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
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