From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, johnw@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
6991@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org
Subject: bug#6991: Please keep bytecode out of *Backtrace* buffers
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 18:05:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8360ne6v1q.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM-tV--kakc6uhfMLwkPuN8v2E2h+t=nD9Tf3jEMQjayfCLXzQ@mail.gmail.com> (message from Noam Postavsky on Tue, 22 Nov 2016 16:07:06 -0500)
> From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 16:07:06 -0500
> Cc: 6991@debbugs.gnu.org, Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>, John Wiegley <johnw@gnu.org>,
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
> Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
>
> > I'm confused: which problem the above is supposed to fix? Are we
> > still talking about putting null bytes in selections, or are we
> > talking about something else?
>
> The original bug report is about copying backtraces containing byte
> code to other applications (e.g., web browser, mail client, etc). The
> byte code in backtraces is currently printed with several characters
> backslash escaped (newline, formfeed, backslash, double quote, and
> characters higher than 0x80). I propose to extend this escaping to
> null bytes as well. That will (somewhat indirectly) solve the problem
> of copying backtraces to other applications, without lossyness (i.e.,
> (equal (read (print str)) str) remains true). It won't solve the
> problem of copying arbitrary text containing null bytes to other
> applications, it only avoids the most common case of the user needing
> to copy text containing null bytes.
I'm not necessarily opposed, but I never had any problems with binary
nulls, except when copying to clipboard.
> So in addition to that, your proposal to escape null bytes in xselect
> and w32select would still be needed to cover the general case. The
> drawback to replacing nulls in the {x,w32}select code is that the
> conversion is lossy, and there is a slightly increased chance of the
> user not noticing there was lossy conversion (relative to the current
> lossy "conversion" of truncating the string).
Yes, it's lossy, but what other alternative do we have, except losing
much more?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-23 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-07 1:35 bug#6991: Please keep bytecode out of *Backtrace* buffers jidanni
2012-02-22 1:02 ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-22 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-22 17:01 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-07-02 17:40 ` Drew Adams
2012-07-02 18:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-02 19:06 ` Drew Adams
2013-01-24 22:43 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <<FEE817DF5DCC41CD9156B414FF2088D1@us.oracle.com>
2013-08-07 22:25 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-26 6:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-26 14:11 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-27 0:52 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-27 1:49 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-19 1:55 ` npostavs
2016-11-19 2:37 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-19 7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-19 14:39 ` npostavs
2016-11-19 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-19 15:20 ` npostavs
2016-11-19 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-19 22:33 ` npostavs
2016-11-20 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-22 18:07 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-22 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-22 21:07 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-23 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-11-26 17:18 ` npostavs
2016-11-26 18:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 2:26 ` npostavs
2017-05-28 14:58 ` npostavs
2017-06-24 22:27 ` npostavs
2017-06-25 19:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-26 3:34 ` npostavs
2017-06-26 4:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-26 12:50 ` npostavs
2017-06-26 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-27 3:56 ` npostavs
2017-06-27 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-29 23:52 ` npostavs
2016-11-26 23:45 ` Richard Stallman
2016-11-27 0:33 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-27 3:34 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-11-27 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-27 14:10 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-27 23:21 ` Richard Stallman
2016-11-19 17:08 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-27 4:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-09-11 10:57 ` bug#6991: Rocky Bernstein
2017-09-11 14:28 ` bug#6991: Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 1:13 ` bug#6991: Rocky Bernstein
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