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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: 40813@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#40813: [PATCH] Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:20:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83368tb04t.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkm=k2V1HkPRjHb_w_rRfVPoVkUz9g=uKbZ17z5xAwf5zSA@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:39:12 +0200)

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:39:12 +0200
> Cc: 40813@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > > I believe org-mode is vastly more well-known and arguably also more
> > > intuitive to users.
> >
> > It is also much larger and heavier.
> 
> Is that a problem in practice?

Of course it is.  We should be economical, and not bloat the memory
footprint of a running Emacs session unnecessarily.

> > > IME and IMO, just the simple fact that you can cycle headlines with
> > > TAB in org-mode makes things a whole lot easier.
> >
> > What do you mean by "cycle headlines", and why cannot it be done in
> > Outline mode?
> 
> By cycling headlines, I mean hiding and showing them (see org-cycle).
> Outline has ten different outline-show-* and outline-hide-* commands
> with their respective key bindings.  Org-mode has one key for all
> this: TAB.

Is there any reason not to have that key binding in Outline mode as
well?

> The main argument is that org-mode will be more familiar to users and
> prospective Emacs hackers.

That needs to be established.  And the relevant population is not all
of the users, only those who tend to read NEWS.  If they indeed prefer
Org mode, let's switch.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-24  9:42 bug#40813: [PATCH] Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 10:39   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 11:20     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-04-24 12:11       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 12:27         ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-24 12:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24 18:16         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-07 19:16         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-24 13:59     ` Noam Postavsky
2020-04-25  3:34   ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-25  6:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-26  3:24       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-29 14:49         ` Robert Pluim
     [not found] ` <mailman.1087.1587724805.3066.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2020-04-24 11:32   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-24 12:19     ` Stefan Kangas

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