From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 20707@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20707: [PROPOSED PATCH] Use curved quoting in C-generated errors
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 23:53:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55768D82.3040509@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150608171804.GA3184@acm.fritz.box>
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> The topic was specifically "message output".
OK.
> we don't control Info output
Actually, we do control it, and can easily tell makeinfo to output straight
ASCII quotes. Although that would have made sense in 1995, it doesn't make
sense now, as makeinfo's default behavior of outputting curved quotes works
better for ordinary usage today.
> you could fix that by fixing your fonts
No, that would disagree with common usage for these characters. Almost
everybody uses the current standard in this area, and it wouldn't be reasonable
to require users to switch to long-obsolete font styles just to see decent output.
> That still displays double curly quotes as inverse question marks, though.
This is not a problem if the topic is specifically "message output", as only
single quotes are being proposed for message output. That being said, most
likely your problem is because you told Emacs you were in a UTF-8 locale. You
can try setting LC_ALL=en_GB.iso885915 or something like that before starting Emacs.
But I'm not sure I would do that. If I understand the rest of your message
correctly, your environment already displays curved single quotes as nicely
curved single quotes. The main problem for message output is that you don't
like the exact appearance of curved single quotes in your font and would prefer
a different appearance and don't like any of the other fonts I've suggested and
would rather fire up a font editor to get an appearance you like. Although
that's all fine of course, this appears to be mainly an issue of font style
preference, which means it's an issue that does not block the proposed change.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-09 6:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-01 7:39 bug#20707: [PROPOSED PATCH] Use curved quoting in C-generated errors Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <mailman.4052.1433144480.904.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-01 10:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-01 16:01 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-01 17:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-01 18:50 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-02 11:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-02 13:25 ` Drew Adams
2015-06-02 15:39 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-02 15:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-02 20:05 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-02 17:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-02 20:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-04 15:43 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-06 15:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-06 18:11 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-06 20:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-07 0:09 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-08 17:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-09 6:53 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2015-06-09 13:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-09 20:49 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-09 22:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-09 23:42 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-10 13:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-10 16:20 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-10 17:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-10 19:42 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-10 19:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-10 19:44 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-11 19:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-12 2:41 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-12 11:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-12 23:46 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-13 11:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-13 17:54 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-07 13:17 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-06-09 16:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-06-02 23:26 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-01 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-01 16:48 ` Glenn Morris
2015-06-01 17:55 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-01 18:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-01 21:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-09 19:44 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-06-11 13:06 ` bug#20707: " Andy Moreton
2020-08-12 13:02 ` bug#20707: [PROPOSED PATCH] " Lars Ingebrigtsen
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