* bug#12289: 24.1; holidays.el does not account for Orthodox Christians using the Revised Julian calendar
@ 2012-08-27 18:13 Carson Chittom
2012-08-28 7:16 ` Glenn Morris
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From: Carson Chittom @ 2012-08-27 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 12289
holidays.el has
(holiday-julian 12 25 "Eastern Orthodox Christmas")
In fact, my understanding is that this is only true for the Orthodox
Churches still using the Julian Calendar exclusively, most notably the
Russian Orthodox Church[1]. Several other Churches[2] use the Revised
Julian calendar, which is indistinguishable from the Gregorian until the
year 2800, for the fixed feasts of the ecclesiastical year.
However, even those on the Revised Julian still uses the (original)
Julian calendar for the calculation of Easter and the moveable feasts so
holiday-greek-orthodox-easter would still apply.
My source for this is http://orthodoxwiki.org/Revised_Julian_Calendar
[1] In addition to the Churches of Jerusalem, Serbia, Ukraine, and Georgia
[2] Constantinople, Antioch, Greece, Cyprus, Romania, Poland, Bulgaria,
and the Orthodox Church in America
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* bug#12289: 24.1; holidays.el does not account for Orthodox Christians using the Revised Julian calendar
2012-08-27 18:13 bug#12289: 24.1; holidays.el does not account for Orthodox Christians using the Revised Julian calendar Carson Chittom
@ 2012-08-28 7:16 ` Glenn Morris
2012-08-28 13:10 ` Carson Chittom
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From: Glenn Morris @ 2012-08-28 7:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carson Chittom; +Cc: 12289
Carson Chittom wrote:
> (holiday-julian 12 25 "Eastern Orthodox Christmas")
>
> In fact, my understanding is that this is only true for the Orthodox
> Churches still using the Julian Calendar exclusively, most notably the
> Russian Orthodox Church[1].
[...]
> [1] In addition to the Churches of Jerusalem, Serbia, Ukraine, and Georgia
What do you think the entry should say?
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* bug#12289: 24.1; holidays.el does not account for Orthodox Christians using the Revised Julian calendar
2012-08-28 7:16 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2012-08-28 13:10 ` Carson Chittom
2012-08-30 1:19 ` Glenn Morris
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From: Carson Chittom @ 2012-08-28 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 12289
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> Carson Chittom wrote:
>
>> (holiday-julian 12 25 "Eastern Orthodox Christmas")
>>
>> In fact, my understanding is that this is only true for the Orthodox
>> Churches still using the Julian Calendar exclusively, most notably the
>> Russian Orthodox Church[1].
> [...]
>> [1] In addition to the Churches of Jerusalem, Serbia, Ukraine, and Georgia
>
> What do you think the entry should say?
I suggest "Christmas (Old Calendar)". After some additional searching,
it appears that, in addition to the Orthodox Churches I mentioned in my
original report, some (but not all) Eastern Catholics continue to use
the Julian calendar as well, so I think it'd be more accurate not to use
the word "Orthodox"; and "Old Calendar" instead of "Julian Calendar"
because the former seems to be in more general use--at least in
English--among those who'd use it.
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* bug#12289: 24.1; holidays.el does not account for Orthodox Christians using the Revised Julian calendar
2012-08-28 13:10 ` Carson Chittom
@ 2012-08-30 1:19 ` Glenn Morris
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From: Glenn Morris @ 2012-08-30 1:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 12289-done
Version: 24.3
I went with "Christmas (Julian calendar)", since the Julian calendar is
referenced in the Emacs manual, etc.
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