From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carson Chittom Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12289: 24.1; holidays.el does not account for Orthodox Christians using the Revised Julian calendar Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:10:55 -0500 Message-ID: <4pvcg3tb4w.fsf@mspb.ms.gov> References: <4p4nnoyziq.fsf@mspb.ms.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1346159538 23450 80.91.229.3 (28 Aug 2012 13:12:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12289@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 28 15:12:19 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T6Lac-0002yT-2n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:12:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47553 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6LaZ-0004Hx-I3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:12:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50567) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6LaS-0004HC-AF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:12:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6LaO-0005w1-3s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:12:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44570) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6LaO-0005vw-0g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T6LbJ-00089j-OO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:13:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Carson Chittom Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12289 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12289-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12289.134615952531283 (code B ref 12289); Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12289) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Aug 2012 13:12:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54116 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T6LaO-00088V-2J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from relay.ms.gov ([205.144.224.112]:41595 helo=itspmx54.state.ms.us) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T6LaM-000887-1N for 12289@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from itspmx54.state.ms.us (puremessage [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AE2C78822; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:09:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from webmail.mspb.ms.gov (spb.state.ms.us [10.13.29.144]) by itspmx54.state.ms.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1B7787C9; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:09:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from CARSON1 (10.13.29.68) by spbexcas.mspb.local (10.13.29.144) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.218.12; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:10:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 28 Aug 2012 03:16:52 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (windows-nt) X-Originating-IP: [10.13.29.68] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:63552 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Carson Chittom wrote: > >> (holiday-julian 12 25 "Eastern Orthodox Christmas") >> >> In fact, my understanding is that this is only true for the Orthodox >> Churches still using the Julian Calendar exclusively, most notably the >> Russian Orthodox Church[1]. > [...] >> [1] In addition to the Churches of Jerusalem, Serbia, Ukraine, and Georgia > > What do you think the entry should say? I suggest "Christmas (Old Calendar)". After some additional searching, it appears that, in addition to the Orthodox Churches I mentioned in my original report, some (but not all) Eastern Catholics continue to use the Julian calendar as well, so I think it'd be more accurate not to use the word "Orthodox"; and "Old Calendar" instead of "Julian Calendar" because the former seems to be in more general use--at least in English--among those who'd use it.