* MWE for BibLaTex and org-ref?
@ 2017-07-12 13:59 Loris Bennett
2017-07-12 17:55 ` John Kitchin
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From: Loris Bennett @ 2017-07-12 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
Does org-ref work with BibLaTeX?
With org-ref, I have an MWE using natbib that works:
#+LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [a4paper, 11pt]
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{natbib}
#+TITLE: MWE
* Introduction
This MWE was found on the internet (see cite:Botha).
bibliographystyle:abbrvnat
bibliography:file.bib
with 'file.bib' being
@Online{Botha,
author = {Charl Botha},
title = {From org file with local bibtex to LaTeX and PDF},
date = {2017-02-20},
url = {https://vxlabs.com/2017/02/20/from-org-file-with-local-bibtex-to-latex-and-pdf/},
}
For org-latex-pdf-process, I'm using the following:
("latexmk -g -pdf -pdflatex=\"%latex\" -shell-escape -outdir=%o %f")
However, if I try to replace natbib by BibLaTeX via
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{biblatex}
#+LATEX_HEADER: \addbibresource{file.bib}
bibliographystyle:alphabetic
bibliography:file.bib
I get errors about the style being invalid and the \bibliography only
being allowed in the preamble.
So if it should work, does anyone have a MWE for org-ref with BibLaTeX?
Cheers,
Loris
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* Re: MWE for BibLaTex and org-ref?
2017-07-12 13:59 MWE for BibLaTex and org-ref? Loris Bennett
@ 2017-07-12 17:55 ` John Kitchin
2017-07-13 6:27 ` Loris Bennett
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From: John Kitchin @ 2017-07-12 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Loris Bennett; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
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org-ref should work fine for biblatex, but the setup for biblatex in the
org file is a bit different than for bibtex.
The org-ref manual can be opened by running M-x org-ref-help. Go to the **
biblatex users heading. Hopefully that is clear enough to help. If not, let
me know what is missing.
Best wishes,
John
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On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Loris Bennett <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does org-ref work with BibLaTeX?
>
> With org-ref, I have an MWE using natbib that works:
>
> #+LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [a4paper, 11pt]
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{natbib}
>
> #+TITLE: MWE
>
> * Introduction
>
> This MWE was found on the internet (see cite:Botha).
>
> bibliographystyle:abbrvnat
> bibliography:file.bib
>
> with 'file.bib' being
>
> @Online{Botha,
> author = {Charl Botha},
> title = {From org file with local bibtex to LaTeX and PDF},
> date = {2017-02-20},
> url = {https://vxlabs.com/2017/02/20/from-org-file-with-local-
> bibtex-to-latex-and-pdf/},
> }
>
> For org-latex-pdf-process, I'm using the following:
>
> ("latexmk -g -pdf -pdflatex=\"%latex\" -shell-escape -outdir=%o %f")
>
> However, if I try to replace natbib by BibLaTeX via
>
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{biblatex}
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \addbibresource{file.bib}
>
> bibliographystyle:alphabetic
> bibliography:file.bib
>
> I get errors about the style being invalid and the \bibliography only
> being allowed in the preamble.
>
> So if it should work, does anyone have a MWE for org-ref with BibLaTeX?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Loris
>
> --
> This signature is currently under construction.
>
>
>
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* Re: MWE for BibLaTex and org-ref?
2017-07-12 17:55 ` John Kitchin
@ 2017-07-13 6:27 ` Loris Bennett
2017-07-13 8:34 ` Detlef Steuer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Loris Bennett @ 2017-07-13 6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi John,
Thanks for the pointer. I think some of the errors I was getting were
due having old temporary files (aux, bcf, ...) lying around and then
switching between natbib and biblatex.
Following the org-ref manual I now have
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[citestyle=authoryear-icomp,bibstyle=authoryear, hyperref=true,backref=true,maxcitenames=3,url=true,backend=biber,natbib=true] {biblatex}
and then use
bibliographystyle:authoryear
I'm now just getting the following error:
! Package biblatex Error: '\bibliographystyle' invalid.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
Cheers,
Loris
John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> org-ref should work fine for biblatex, but the setup for biblatex in
> the org file is a bit different than for bibtex.
>
> The org-ref manual can be opened by running M-x org-ref-help. Go to
> the ** biblatex users heading. Hopefully that is clear enough to
> help. If not, let me know what is missing.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> John
>
> -----------------------------------
> Professor John Kitchin
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Loris Bennett <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does org-ref work with BibLaTeX?
>
> With org-ref, I have an MWE using natbib that works:
>
> #+LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [a4paper, 11pt]
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{natbib}
>
> #+TITLE: MWE
>
> * Introduction
>
> This MWE was found on the internet (see cite:Botha).
>
> bibliographystyle:abbrvnat
> bibliography:file.bib
>
> with 'file.bib' being
>
> @Online{Botha,
> author = {Charl Botha},
> title = {From org file with local bibtex to LaTeX and PDF},
> date = {2017-02-20},
> url = {https://vxlabs.com/2017/02/20/from-org-file-with-local-bibtex-to-latex-and-pdf/},
> }
>
> For org-latex-pdf-process, I'm using the following:
>
> ("latexmk -g -pdf -pdflatex=\"%latex\" -shell-escape -outdir=%o %f")
>
> However, if I try to replace natbib by BibLaTeX via
>
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{biblatex}
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \addbibresource{file.bib}
>
> bibliographystyle:alphabetic
> bibliography:file.bib
>
> I get errors about the style being invalid and the \bibliography only
> being allowed in the preamble.
>
> So if it should work, does anyone have a MWE for org-ref with BibLaTeX?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Loris
>
> --
> This signature is currently under construction.
>
>
--
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ZEDAT, Freie Universität Berlin Email loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de
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* Re: MWE for BibLaTex and org-ref?
2017-07-13 6:27 ` Loris Bennett
@ 2017-07-13 8:34 ` Detlef Steuer
2017-07-13 9:01 ` Loris Bennett
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Detlef Steuer @ 2017-07-13 8:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi!
Look here:
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/5091/what-to-do-to-switch-to-biblatex
In short \bibliographystyle and biblatex don't match.
Hope that helps
Detlef
Am Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:27:17 +0200
schrieb "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de>:
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for the pointer. I think some of the errors I was getting were
> due having old temporary files (aux, bcf, ...) lying around and then
> switching between natbib and biblatex.
>
> Following the org-ref manual I now have
>
> #+LATEX_HEADER:
> \usepackage[citestyle=authoryear-icomp,bibstyle=authoryear,
> hyperref=true,backref=true,maxcitenames=3,url=true,backend=biber,natbib=true]
> {biblatex}
>
> and then use
>
> bibliographystyle:authoryear
>
> I'm now just getting the following error:
>
> ! Package biblatex Error: '\bibliographystyle' invalid.
>
> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Loris
>
> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
> > org-ref should work fine for biblatex, but the setup for biblatex in
> > the org file is a bit different than for bibtex.
> >
> > The org-ref manual can be opened by running M-x org-ref-help. Go to
> > the ** biblatex users heading. Hopefully that is clear enough to
> > help. If not, let me know what is missing.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > John
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> > Professor John Kitchin
> > Doherty Hall A207F
> > Department of Chemical Engineering
> > Carnegie Mellon University
> > Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> > 412-268-7803
> > @johnkitchin
> > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Loris Bennett
> > <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does org-ref work with BibLaTeX?
> >
> > With org-ref, I have an MWE using natbib that works:
> >
> > #+LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [a4paper, 11pt]
> > #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{natbib}
> >
> > #+TITLE: MWE
> >
> > * Introduction
> >
> > This MWE was found on the internet (see cite:Botha).
> >
> > bibliographystyle:abbrvnat
> > bibliography:file.bib
> >
> > with 'file.bib' being
> >
> > @Online{Botha,
> > author = {Charl Botha},
> > title = {From org file with local bibtex to LaTeX and PDF},
> > date = {2017-02-20},
> > url =
> > {https://vxlabs.com/2017/02/20/from-org-file-with-local-bibtex-to-latex-and-pdf/}, }
> >
> > For org-latex-pdf-process, I'm using the following:
> >
> > ("latexmk -g -pdf -pdflatex=\"%latex\" -shell-escape -outdir=%o
> > %f")
> >
> > However, if I try to replace natbib by BibLaTeX via
> >
> > #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{biblatex}
> > #+LATEX_HEADER: \addbibresource{file.bib}
> >
> > bibliographystyle:alphabetic
> > bibliography:file.bib
> >
> > I get errors about the style being invalid and the \bibliography
> > only being allowed in the preamble.
> >
> > So if it should work, does anyone have a MWE for org-ref with
> > BibLaTeX?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Loris
> >
> > --
> > This signature is currently under construction.
> >
> >
>
--
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Helmut-Schmidt-Universität
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* Re: MWE for BibLaTex and org-ref?
2017-07-13 8:34 ` Detlef Steuer
@ 2017-07-13 9:01 ` Loris Bennett
2017-07-17 14:52 ` John Kitchin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Loris Bennett @ 2017-07-13 9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi Detlef,
Thanks for the information. After removing the bibliography and
bibliographystyle, everything seems to work. I think I was confused by
the following line from the org-ref manual:
For LaTeX export a bibliography and bibliographystyle link is /required/.
Are they only required if I am *not* using biblatex, or, if I *am* using
biblatex, are some org-ref goodies not going to work if I don't have
them?
Cheers,
Loris
Detlef Steuer <steuer@unibw-hamburg.de> writes:
> Hi!
>
> Look here:
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/5091/what-to-do-to-switch-to-biblatex
>
> In short \bibliographystyle and biblatex don't match.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Detlef
>
> Am Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:27:17 +0200
> schrieb "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de>:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Thanks for the pointer. I think some of the errors I was getting were
>> due having old temporary files (aux, bcf, ...) lying around and then
>> switching between natbib and biblatex.
>>
>> Following the org-ref manual I now have
>>
>> #+LATEX_HEADER:
>> \usepackage[citestyle=authoryear-icomp,bibstyle=authoryear,
>> hyperref=true,backref=true,maxcitenames=3,url=true,backend=biber,natbib=true]
>> {biblatex}
>>
>> and then use
>>
>> bibliographystyle:authoryear
>>
>> I'm now just getting the following error:
>>
>> ! Package biblatex Error: '\bibliographystyle' invalid.
>>
>> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Loris
>>
>> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>
>> > org-ref should work fine for biblatex, but the setup for biblatex in
>> > the org file is a bit different than for bibtex.
>> >
>> > The org-ref manual can be opened by running M-x org-ref-help. Go to
>> > the ** biblatex users heading. Hopefully that is clear enough to
>> > help. If not, let me know what is missing.
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------
>> > Professor John Kitchin
>> > Doherty Hall A207F
>> > Department of Chemical Engineering
>> > Carnegie Mellon University
>> > Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> > 412-268-7803
>> > @johnkitchin
>> > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Loris Bennett
>> > <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Does org-ref work with BibLaTeX?
>> >
>> > With org-ref, I have an MWE using natbib that works:
>> >
>> > #+LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [a4paper, 11pt]
>> > #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{natbib}
>> >
>> > #+TITLE: MWE
>> >
>> > * Introduction
>> >
>> > This MWE was found on the internet (see cite:Botha).
>> >
>> > bibliographystyle:abbrvnat
>> > bibliography:file.bib
>> >
>> > with 'file.bib' being
>> >
>> > @Online{Botha,
>> > author = {Charl Botha},
>> > title = {From org file with local bibtex to LaTeX and PDF},
>> > date = {2017-02-20},
>> > url =
>> > {https://vxlabs.com/2017/02/20/from-org-file-with-local-bibtex-to-latex-and-pdf/}, }
>> >
>> > For org-latex-pdf-process, I'm using the following:
>> >
>> > ("latexmk -g -pdf -pdflatex=\"%latex\" -shell-escape -outdir=%o
>> > %f")
>> >
>> > However, if I try to replace natbib by BibLaTeX via
>> >
>> > #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{biblatex}
>> > #+LATEX_HEADER: \addbibresource{file.bib}
>> >
>> > bibliographystyle:alphabetic
>> > bibliography:file.bib
>> >
>> > I get errors about the style being invalid and the \bibliography
>> > only being allowed in the preamble.
>> >
>> > So if it should work, does anyone have a MWE for org-ref with
>> > BibLaTeX?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Loris
>> >
>> > --
>> > This signature is currently under construction.
>> >
>> >
>>
--
Dr. Loris Bennett (Mr.)
ZEDAT, Freie Universität Berlin Email loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de
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* Re: MWE for BibLaTex and org-ref?
2017-07-13 9:01 ` Loris Bennett
@ 2017-07-17 14:52 ` John Kitchin
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2017-07-17 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Loris Bennett; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
I added some clarification to the manual on that point. Thanks for
pointing out it was a confusing!
best wishes,
Loris Bennett writes:
> Hi Detlef,
>
> Thanks for the information. After removing the bibliography and
> bibliographystyle, everything seems to work. I think I was confused by
> the following line from the org-ref manual:
>
> For LaTeX export a bibliography and bibliographystyle link is /required/.
>
> Are they only required if I am *not* using biblatex, or, if I *am* using
> biblatex, are some org-ref goodies not going to work if I don't have
> them?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Loris
>
> Detlef Steuer <steuer@unibw-hamburg.de> writes:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Look here:
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/5091/what-to-do-to-switch-to-biblatex
>>
>> In short \bibliographystyle and biblatex don't match.
>>
>> Hope that helps
>>
>> Detlef
>>
>> Am Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:27:17 +0200
>> schrieb "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de>:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the pointer. I think some of the errors I was getting were
>>> due having old temporary files (aux, bcf, ...) lying around and then
>>> switching between natbib and biblatex.
>>>
>>> Following the org-ref manual I now have
>>>
>>> #+LATEX_HEADER:
>>> \usepackage[citestyle=authoryear-icomp,bibstyle=authoryear,
>>> hyperref=true,backref=true,maxcitenames=3,url=true,backend=biber,natbib=true]
>>> {biblatex}
>>>
>>> and then use
>>>
>>> bibliographystyle:authoryear
>>>
>>> I'm now just getting the following error:
>>>
>>> ! Package biblatex Error: '\bibliographystyle' invalid.
>>>
>>> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Loris
>>>
>>> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>>
>>> > org-ref should work fine for biblatex, but the setup for biblatex in
>>> > the org file is a bit different than for bibtex.
>>> >
>>> > The org-ref manual can be opened by running M-x org-ref-help. Go to
>>> > the ** biblatex users heading. Hopefully that is clear enough to
>>> > help. If not, let me know what is missing.
>>> >
>>> > Best wishes,
>>> >
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> > -----------------------------------
>>> > Professor John Kitchin
>>> > Doherty Hall A207F
>>> > Department of Chemical Engineering
>>> > Carnegie Mellon University
>>> > Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>>> > 412-268-7803
>>> > @johnkitchin
>>> > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Loris Bennett
>>> > <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Does org-ref work with BibLaTeX?
>>> >
>>> > With org-ref, I have an MWE using natbib that works:
>>> >
>>> > #+LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [a4paper, 11pt]
>>> > #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{natbib}
>>> >
>>> > #+TITLE: MWE
>>> >
>>> > * Introduction
>>> >
>>> > This MWE was found on the internet (see cite:Botha).
>>> >
>>> > bibliographystyle:abbrvnat
>>> > bibliography:file.bib
>>> >
>>> > with 'file.bib' being
>>> >
>>> > @Online{Botha,
>>> > author = {Charl Botha},
>>> > title = {From org file with local bibtex to LaTeX and PDF},
>>> > date = {2017-02-20},
>>> > url =
>>> > {https://vxlabs.com/2017/02/20/from-org-file-with-local-bibtex-to-latex-and-pdf/}, }
>>> >
>>> > For org-latex-pdf-process, I'm using the following:
>>> >
>>> > ("latexmk -g -pdf -pdflatex=\"%latex\" -shell-escape -outdir=%o
>>> > %f")
>>> >
>>> > However, if I try to replace natbib by BibLaTeX via
>>> >
>>> > #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{biblatex}
>>> > #+LATEX_HEADER: \addbibresource{file.bib}
>>> >
>>> > bibliographystyle:alphabetic
>>> > bibliography:file.bib
>>> >
>>> > I get errors about the style being invalid and the \bibliography
>>> > only being allowed in the preamble.
>>> >
>>> > So if it should work, does anyone have a MWE for org-ref with
>>> > BibLaTeX?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Loris
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > This signature is currently under construction.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
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