%( in capture template

%( in capture template

[Samuel Wales]

i have "%(my-function \"%:link\" \"%:description\" \"%i\")" in a
capture template, which now does not run the function but treats it as
text.  i get that this is for security.  what do i do?

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Re: %( in capture template

[Nick Dokos]

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> i have "%(my-function \"%:link\" \"%:description\" \"%i\")" in a
> capture template, which now does not run the function but treats it as
> text.  i get that this is for security.  what do i do?

IIUC, if the function call is part of the template that is inserted as a
result of the capture, the function should still be executed: I see
calls to `org-capture-expand-embedded-elisp' still in
`org-capture'. Can you post the full entry?

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Re: %( in capture template

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> i have "%(my-function \"%:link\" \"%:description\" \"%i\")" in a
> capture template, which now does not run the function but treats it as
> text.

It should. Do you have an ECM?

Regards,

-- 
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Re: %( in capture template

[Samuel Wales]

On 1/10/17, Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> wrote:
> IIUC, if the function call is part of the template that is inserted as a
> result of the capture, the function should still be executed: I see
> calls to `org-capture-expand-embedded-elisp' still in
> `org-capture'. Can you post the full entry?

here are the entries:

("p" "Protocol p" entry
      (file+headline "/home/org/executive--a.org" "xyzzy-remember")
      "%(alpha-org-protocol-string \"%:link\" \"%:description\"
\"%i\")" :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t)
 ("L" "Protocol L" entry
      (file+headline "/home/org/executive--a.org" "xyzzy-remember")
      "%(alpha-org-protocol-string \"%:link\" \"%:description\"
\"%i\")" :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t)

background: this is part of my years-long effort to try to
get protocol to work from firefox.  i never got org-protocol to work
reliably in org 8, despite trying probably at least 4 separate sets of
instructions.

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Re: %( in capture template

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> here are the entries:
>
> ("p" "Protocol p" entry
>       (file+headline "/home/org/executive--a.org" "xyzzy-remember")
>       "%(alpha-org-protocol-string \"%:link\" \"%:description\"
> \"%i\")" :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t)
>  ("L" "Protocol L" entry
>       (file+headline "/home/org/executive--a.org" "xyzzy-remember")
>       "%(alpha-org-protocol-string \"%:link\" \"%:description\"
> \"%i\")" :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t)

I fixed an issue with :jump-to-captured in conjunction with a nil
`org-capture-bookmark'.

Now, I can use the following template without issue

 ("B" "BUG!" entry
  (file+headline "/tmp/bug-capture.org" "test")
  "%(concat \"* headline\" \"%:link\" \"%:description\" \"%i\")"
  :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t)

Note that `alpha-org-protocol-string' is expected to create a valid Org
tree (or headline).

Could you confirm it is now working as expected? Thank you.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: %( in capture template

[Samuel Wales]

hi nicolas,


thank you for the fix.  quick testing seems to show that it works much
better.  will keep evaluating it.

i had thought it was my own lack of understanding.

there is one problem.  when i select a few paragraphs in firefox using
org-capture extension, they get captured as one long line.  but i'm
guessing that's protocol, not capture.


samuel

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%( in capture template

[Samuel Wales]

with the new org maint code, i still occasionally get the literal string.

it occurs when the region spans a blank line.

like

  %(concat
"http://whatever.whatever/building-a-mold-free-house/whatever"
"Building a mold free house" "

these remplates [don't know if first does anything]

  (add-to-list 'org-capture-templates
               `("L" "Protocol L for link" entry
                 (file+headline ,org-default-notes-file "xyzzy-remember")
                 ;; fixme perhaps i do not need the %i, if it is for no text
                 "%(concat \"%:link\"
\"%:description\" \"%i\") L"
                 :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t))
  ;; this seems to get called by org capture whether selection or not
  (add-to-list 'org-capture-templates
               `("p" "Protocol p" entry
                 (file+headline ,org-default-notes-file "xyzzy-remember")
                 "%(concat \"%:link\"
\"%:description\" \"%i\")"
                 :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t))

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Re: %( in capture template

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> with the new org maint code, i still occasionally get the literal string.
>
> it occurs when the region spans a blank line.

I cannot reproduce your issue.

> like
>
>   %(concat
> "http://whatever.whatever/building-a-mold-free-house/whatever"
> "Building a mold free house" "

I have trouble understanding the double quote above. Do you mean the
text below is inserted within the %(concat ...) or are these your
templates? In this case, which one produces the error?

> these remplates [don't know if first does anything]
>
>   (add-to-list 'org-capture-templates
>                `("L" "Protocol L for link" entry
>                  (file+headline ,org-default-notes-file "xyzzy-remember")
>                  ;; fixme perhaps i do not need the %i, if it is for no text
>                  "%(concat \"%:link\"
> \"%:description\" \"%i\") L"
>                  :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t))
>   ;; this seems to get called by org capture whether selection or not
>   (add-to-list 'org-capture-templates
>                `("p" "Protocol p" entry
>                  (file+headline ,org-default-notes-file "xyzzy-remember")
>                  "%(concat \"%:link\"
> \"%:description\" \"%i\")"
>                  :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t))

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: %( in capture template

[Samuel Wales]

On 2/19/17, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
> I have trouble understanding the double quote above. Do you mean the
> text below is inserted within the %(concat ...) or are these your
> templates? In this case, which one produces the error?

thanks for asking about this.

for clarity, let's do it from the beginning.

[first please note that i am experiencing random results.  sometimes
it works fine but:

  1] sometimes nothing shows up
  2] sometimes as i will describe below
  3] sometimes nothing shows up, but "Warning (emacs): Please update
your org protocol handler to deal with new-style links." buffer pops
up

what i will describe is 2, which is the topic of this thread.]

just now i selected the first two paragraphs of the quote of your
email, and clicked the org-capture extension unicorn.

i use this function:

(defun alpha-org-protocol-string (link description region)
  (format "* x
           link %s
           description %s
           region %s
           " link description region))

the result of clicking on the unicorn:

===
***** x
           link
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/rfjkj7op114w/?&th=15a580ccf5cb9d34&v=c
           description Gmail - %( in capture template
           region
%(alpha-org-protocol-string
"https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/rfjkj7op114w/?&th=15a580ccf5cb9d34&v=c"
"Gmail - %( in capture template" "> with the new org maint code, i
still occasionally get the literal string.
%(alpha-org-protocol-string
"https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/rfjkj7op114w/?&th=15a580ccf5cb9d34&v=c"
"Gmail - %( in capture template" ">
%(alpha-org-protocol-string
"https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/rfjkj7op114w/?&th=15a580ccf5cb9d34&v=c"
"Gmail - %( in capture template" "> it occurs when the region spans a
blank line.
===

region should be what i selected.  instead it is a garbled version of
what i selected with the literal function call text.  is this user
error?

the double quotes are as you see them.  i did not add any.

below are my templates.

  (add-to-list 'org-capture-templates
               `("L" "Protocol L for link" entry
                 (file+headline ,org-default-notes-file "xyzzy-remember")
                 ;; fixme perhaps i do not need the %i, if it is for no text
                 "%(alpha-org-protocol-string \"%:link\"
\"%:description\" \"%i\") L"
                 :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t))
  ;; this seems to get called by org capture whether selection or not
  (add-to-list 'org-capture-templates
               `("p" "Protocol p" entry
                 (file+headline ,org-default-notes-file "xyzzy-remember")
                 "%(alpha-org-protocol-string \"%:link\"
\"%:description\" \"%i\")"
                 :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t))

the org capture extension is set to p, so the second one should be the
operative one.  but what do i know?

so perhaps %i is being set to some crazy value.

i definitely do not understand any of this stuff.

Re: %( in capture template

[Samuel Wales]

the above bug description pertains to recent org maint.

Re: %( in capture template

[Samuel Wales]

On 2/19/17, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> ***** x
>            link
> https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/rfjkj7op114w/?&th=15a580ccf5cb9d34&v=c
>            description Gmail - %( in capture template
>            region
> %(alpha-org-protocol-string
> "https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/rfjkj7op114w/?&th=15a580ccf5cb9d34&v=c"
> "Gmail - %( in capture template" "> with the new org maint code, i
> still occasionally get the literal string.
> %(alpha-org-protocol-string
> "https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/rfjkj7op114w/?&th=15a580ccf5cb9d34&v=c"
> "Gmail - %( in capture template" ">
> %(alpha-org-protocol-string
> "https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/rfjkj7op114w/?&th=15a580ccf5cb9d34&v=c"
> "Gmail - %( in capture template" "> it occurs when the region spans a
> blank line.

intuitively, does this sound like user error, or a bug?

Re: %( in capture template

[Samuel Wales]

===
* ecm
capture literally inserts.  i was told this is not normal,
but a bug.

recent maint

to reproduce, evaluate the following code, select the lines
in the scratch buffer, and run m-x org-capture RET p.

set the notes file to whatever works for you.

*** code
  (require 'org-capture)
  (setq org-default-notes-file (substitute-in-file-name
"$dorg/alpha-org-testcase.org"))
  ;; (find-file org-default-notes-file)
  (defun alpha-org-testcase--create-capture-bug ()
    (add-to-list 'org-capture-templates
                 `("p" "Protocol p" entry
                   (file+headline ,org-default-notes-file "xyzzy-remember")
                   "%(alpha-org-protocol-string \"%:link\"
\"%:description\" \"%i\")"
                   :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t))
    (defun alpha-org-protocol-string (link description region)
      (format "* debug org-capture
           - link %s
           - description %s
           - region %s \
           "
              link description region)))
*** the bug is below
***** debug org-capture
             - link
             - description
             - region ;; This buffer is for notes you don't want to
save, and for Lisp evaluation.
  %(alpha-org-protocol-string "" "" ";; If you want to create a file,
visit that file with C-x C-f,
  %(alpha-org-protocol-string "" "" ";; then enter the text in that
file's own buffer.
  %(alpha-org-protocol-string "" "" "
  %(alpha-org-protocol-string "" "" "
===

On 1/10/17, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> i have "%(my-function \"%:link\" \"%:description\" \"%i\")" in a
>> capture template, which now does not run the function but treats it as
>> text.
>
> It should. Do you have an ECM?
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
>


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Re: %( in capture template

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> ===
> * ecm
> capture literally inserts.  i was told this is not normal,
> but a bug.
>
> recent maint
>
> to reproduce, evaluate the following code, select the lines
> in the scratch buffer, and run m-x org-capture RET p.
>
> set the notes file to whatever works for you.
>
> *** code
>   (require 'org-capture)
>   (setq org-default-notes-file (substitute-in-file-name
> "$dorg/alpha-org-testcase.org"))
>   ;; (find-file org-default-notes-file)
>   (defun alpha-org-testcase--create-capture-bug ()
>     (add-to-list 'org-capture-templates
>                  `("p" "Protocol p" entry
>                    (file+headline ,org-default-notes-file "xyzzy-remember")
>                    "%(alpha-org-protocol-string \"%:link\"
> \"%:description\" \"%i\")"
>                    :prepend t :immediate-finish t :jump-to-captured t))
>     (defun alpha-org-protocol-string (link description region)
>       (format "* debug org-capture
>            - link %s
>            - description %s
>            - region %s \
>            "
>               link description region)))
> *** the bug is below
> ***** debug org-capture
>              - link
>              - description
>              - region ;; This buffer is for notes you don't want to
> save, and for Lisp evaluation.
>   %(alpha-org-protocol-string "" "" ";; If you want to create a file,
> visit that file with C-x C-f,
>   %(alpha-org-protocol-string "" "" ";; then enter the text in that
> file's own buffer.
>   %(alpha-org-protocol-string "" "" "
>   %(alpha-org-protocol-string "" "" "
> ===

Thank you. I think it is fixed, now. Could you test maint branch and
report your result?

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: %( in capture template

[Samuel Wales]

On 3/14/17, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
> Thank you. I think it is fixed, now. Could you test maint branch and
> report your result?

it seems to work so far.  thank you.

btw, the org-capture firefox extension is behaving more reliably also,
with recent firefox-esr.  it has been many years since i tried to get
protocol to work.

this matters because i very often only use the mouse.

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