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* [PATCH] Suggestion to change speed key
@ 2009-11-14 18:49 Gregory J. Grubbs
  2009-11-14 19:08 ` Bernt Hansen
  2009-11-15  7:23 ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Gregory J. Grubbs @ 2009-11-14 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode


The current speed keys include the following:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
c   org-cycle
C   org-shifttab
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

But those keys already have equivalents with the same number of key
strokes: 
c  can also be done as TAB
S-c is S-TAB

I find it quite useful to jump into and out of column view as I'm
zipping up and down the hierarchy of an org-mode file.

I therefore suggest removing C as a speed key, and using c to invoke org-columns,
like so:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 0c22428..3ae67f1 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -14905,8 +14905,7 @@ Some of the options can be changed using the variable
     ("j" . org-goto)
     ("g" . (org-refile t))
     ("Outline Visibility")
-    ("c" . org-cycle)
-    ("C" . org-shifttab)
+    ("c" . org-columns)
     (" " . org-display-outline-path)
     ("Outline Structure Editing")
     ("U" . org-shiftmetaup)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

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* Re: [PATCH] Suggestion to change speed key
  2009-11-14 18:49 [PATCH] Suggestion to change speed key Gregory J. Grubbs
@ 2009-11-14 19:08 ` Bernt Hansen
  2009-11-15  7:23 ` Carsten Dominik
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2009-11-14 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gregory J. Grubbs; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

gregory@dynapse.com (Gregory J. Grubbs) writes:

> I therefore suggest removing C as a speed key, and using c to invoke org-columns,
> like so:

I think what we should probably do is redefine the keys locally in
org-speed-commands-user and then after using them for a while get people
to post their org-speed-commands-user settings in a new thread just for
the purpose of collecting speed key definitions - similar to the one we
had months ago for the custom variable settings.  Carsten can then pick
and choose what he considers to be good defaults for org-mode from
whatever people post there.

In the meantime everyone can happily use their local speed keys settings
(in your case overriding the c and C keys with whatever works for you)
by setting it up in org-speed-commands-user.  This lets people play with
what they consider to be good speed keys and weed them out of
consideration if they don't really work as well as expected.

We get the benefit of using our custom speed key settings immediately
and hopefully in the long term we can also improve the default key
settings.

Comments?

Bernt

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* Re: [PATCH] Suggestion to change speed key
  2009-11-14 18:49 [PATCH] Suggestion to change speed key Gregory J. Grubbs
  2009-11-14 19:08 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2009-11-15  7:23 ` Carsten Dominik
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-11-15  7:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gregory J. Grubbs; +Cc: emacs-orgmode


On Nov 14, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Gregory J. Grubbs wrote:

>
> The current speed keys include the following:
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> c   org-cycle
> C   org-shifttab
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> But those keys already have equivalents with the same number of key
> strokes:
> c  can also be done as TAB
> S-c is S-TAB
>
> I find it quite useful to jump into and out of column view as I'm
> zipping up and down the hierarchy of an org-mode file.

Just to explain why I did put these two keys in there:  For small
devices where TAB is not on the keyboard, and for devices where it is
not possible to press S-TAB.

FOr the rest I agree with Bernt, let's for now collect good ideas for
speed commands and then make a bigger, well-organized change at some  
point.

- Carsten

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