Bug: Definition of stuck projects [6.36trans (release_6.36.293.g2e73c)]

Bug: Definition of stuck projects [6.36trans (release_6.36.293.g2e73c)]

[Jean-Marie Gaillourdet]

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I've been trying to make org-stuck-projects work as advertised, but
wasn't successfull.

But let's start with what I'd like to achieve. My projects are marked
with a todo keyword PROJECT. I would like to consider every project
which has neither a task with keyword TODO nor a task with keyword
STARTED as stuck. Especially, this means a project may contain tasks
with active todo keywords, e.g. DELEGATED or WAITING, but it is still
considered stuck.

After reading the manual and the doc-string of org-stuck-projects. I
think the following value should achieve this.

(setq org-stuck-projects '("/PROJECT" ("TODO" "STARTED") nil ""))

But every sub task of the project with an active todo keywords make a
project unstuck. I have the impression the list ("TODO" "STARTED") is
completely ignored. The following project should appear on the list of
stuck projects, but it does not.

* PROJECT Testprojekt                                           :inproject:
*** DELEGATED a delegated subtask

Thanks, for any help and the great org-mode



Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.8.0, NS apple-appkit-949.54)
of 2009-09-03 on goedel.informatik.uni-kl.de
Package: Org-mode version 6.36trans (release_6.36.293.g2e73c)

current state:
==============
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Re: Bug: Definition of stuck projects [6.36trans (release_6.36.293.g2e73c)]

[Matt Lundin]

Jean-Marie Gaillourdet <jmg@gaillourdet.net> writes:

> I've been trying to make org-stuck-projects work as advertised, but
> wasn't successfull.
>
> But let's start with what I'd like to achieve. My projects are marked
> with a todo keyword PROJECT. I would like to consider every project
> which has neither a task with keyword TODO nor a task with keyword
> STARTED as stuck. Especially, this means a project may contain tasks
> with active todo keywords, e.g. DELEGATED or WAITING, but it is still
> considered stuck.
>
> After reading the manual and the doc-string of org-stuck-projects. I
> think the following value should achieve this.
>
> (setq org-stuck-projects '("/PROJECT" ("TODO" "STARTED") nil ""))
>
> But every sub task of the project with an active todo keywords make a
> project unstuck. I have the impression the list ("TODO" "STARTED") is
> completely ignored. The following project should appear on the list of
> stuck projects, but it does not.
>
> * PROJECT Testprojekt                                           :inproject:
> *** DELEGATED a delegated subtask
>

I cannot replicate this. Using the setting above, I called
org-agenda-list-stuck-projects on the following file:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#+TODO: TODO PROJECT DELEGATED WAITING | DONE

* PROJECT Testprojekt 						  :inproject:
** DELEGATED a delegated subtask
* PROJECT Another test
** TODO A todo 				
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The agenda yielded the correct results:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
List of stuck projects: 
  test:       PROJECT Testprojekt                                    :inproject:
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Best,
Matt

Re: Bug: Definition of stuck projects [6.36trans (release_6.36.293.g2e73c)]

[Jean-Marie Gaillourdet]

Hi Matt,

thanks for investigating it. I will spend more time simplifying my configuration while still being apple to reproduce it myself.

Regards,
Jean

On 25.06.2010, at 22:19, Matt Lundin wrote:

> Jean-Marie Gaillourdet <jmg@gaillourdet.net> writes:
> 
>> I've been trying to make org-stuck-projects work as advertised, but
>> wasn't successfull.
>> 
>> But let's start with what I'd like to achieve. My projects are marked
>> with a todo keyword PROJECT. I would like to consider every project
>> which has neither a task with keyword TODO nor a task with keyword
>> STARTED as stuck. Especially, this means a project may contain tasks
>> with active todo keywords, e.g. DELEGATED or WAITING, but it is still
>> considered stuck.
>> 
>> After reading the manual and the doc-string of org-stuck-projects. I
>> think the following value should achieve this.
>> 
>> (setq org-stuck-projects '("/PROJECT" ("TODO" "STARTED") nil ""))
>> 
>> But every sub task of the project with an active todo keywords make a
>> project unstuck. I have the impression the list ("TODO" "STARTED") is
>> completely ignored. The following project should appear on the list of
>> stuck projects, but it does not.
>> 
>> * PROJECT Testprojekt                                           :inproject:
>> *** DELEGATED a delegated subtask
>> 
> 
> I cannot replicate this. Using the setting above, I called
> org-agenda-list-stuck-projects on the following file:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> #+TODO: TODO PROJECT DELEGATED WAITING | DONE
> 
> * PROJECT Testprojekt 						  :inproject:
> ** DELEGATED a delegated subtask
> * PROJECT Another test
> ** TODO A todo 				
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> The agenda yielded the correct results:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> List of stuck projects: 
>  test:       PROJECT Testprojekt                                    :inproject:
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> Best,
> Matt

Not a bug, but ...

[Jean-Marie Gaillourdet]

Hi,

On 25.06.2010, at 22:19, Matt Lundin wrote:

> Jean-Marie Gaillourdet <jmg@gaillourdet.net> writes:
> 
>> I've been trying to make org-stuck-projects work as advertised, but
>> wasn't successfull.
>> 
>> But let's start with what I'd like to achieve. My projects are marked
>> with a todo keyword PROJECT. I would like to consider every project
>> which has neither a task with keyword TODO nor a task with keyword
>> STARTED as stuck. Especially, this means a project may contain tasks
>> with active todo keywords, e.g. DELEGATED or WAITING, but it is still
>> considered stuck.
>> 
>> After reading the manual and the doc-string of org-stuck-projects. I
>> think the following value should achieve this.
>> 
>> (setq org-stuck-projects '("/PROJECT" ("TODO" "STARTED") nil ""))
>> 
>> But every sub task of the project with an active todo keywords make a
>> project unstuck. I have the impression the list ("TODO" "STARTED") is
>> completely ignored. The following project should appear on the list of
>> stuck projects, but it does not.
>> 
>> * PROJECT Testprojekt                                           :inproject:
>> *** DELEGATED a delegated subtask
>> 
> 
> I cannot replicate this. Using the setting above, I called
> org-agenda-list-stuck-projects on the following file:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> #+TODO: TODO PROJECT DELEGATED WAITING | DONE
> 
> * PROJECT Testprojekt 						  :inproject:
> ** DELEGATED a delegated subtask
> * PROJECT Another test
> ** TODO A todo 				
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> The agenda yielded the correct results:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> List of stuck projects: 
>  test:       PROJECT Testprojekt                                    :inproject:
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


Finally, I've understood the problem. Testprojekt does not appear on my stuck projects list, because I've enabled org-enforce-todo-dependencies and I use (org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks 'invisible). Testprojekt is just hidden in the stuck projects, as is every project with any kind of non-closed sub task. Perhaps org-agenda-list-stuck-projects should ignore the value of org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks in general?

Currently, I use the following function to circumvent the hiding of my stuck projects.

(defun jmg/stuck-projects ()
 (interactive)
 (let ((org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks nil))
   (org-agenda-list-stuck-projects)
   ))

Is it possible to bind it to the standard agenda shortcut C-c a # ? Or to achieve the same effect just with special agenda command configuration?

Thanks, for your help.

Regards,
Jean

Re: Not a bug, but ...

[Bernt Hansen]

Jean-Marie Gaillourdet <jmg@gaillourdet.net> writes:

> Finally, I've understood the problem. Testprojekt does not appear on
> my stuck projects list, because I've enabled
> org-enforce-todo-dependencies and I use (org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks
> 'invisible). Testprojekt is just hidden in the stuck projects, as is
> every project with any kind of non-closed sub task. Perhaps
> org-agenda-list-stuck-projects should ignore the value of
> org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks in general?
>
> Currently, I use the following function to circumvent the hiding of my
> stuck projects.
>
> (defun jmg/stuck-projects ()
>  (interactive)
>  (let ((org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks nil))
>    (org-agenda-list-stuck-projects)
>    ))
>
> Is it possible to bind it to the standard agenda shortcut C-c a # ? Or
> to achieve the same effect just with special agenda command
> configuration?

Yes it is possible to rebind # in an agenda custom command.  I've done
that since I now use non-standard stuck project definitions.

-Bernt

Re: Not a bug, but ...

[Jean-Marie Gaillourdet]

Hi Bernt,

On 28.06.2010, at 13:23, Bernt Hansen wrote:

> Jean-Marie Gaillourdet <jmg@gaillourdet.net> writes:
> 
>> Hi Bernt,
>> 
>> On 27.06.2010, at 14:21, Bernt Hansen wrote:
>>>> Currently, I use the following function to circumvent the hiding of my
>>>> stuck projects.
>>>> 
>>>> (defun jmg/stuck-projects ()
>>>> (interactive)
>>>> (let ((org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks nil))
>>>>  (org-agenda-list-stuck-projects)
>>>>  ))
>>>> 
>>>> Is it possible to bind it to the standard agenda shortcut C-c a # ? Or
>>>> to achieve the same effect just with special agenda command
>>>> configuration?
>>> 
>>> Yes it is possible to rebind # in an agenda custom command.  I've done
>>> that since I now use non-standard stuck project definitions.
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, I've seen it in your documentation, but is it possible to
>> org-agenda-list-stuck-projects from a custom agenda definition?
> 
> There is a stuck-projects selection (like tags, tags-todo, etc) but I've
> never tried.  I assume it works.

Indeed, there is a stuck mode. Thanks, for the hint. But it isn't documented in the docstring of org-agenda-custom-commands, although it is available from the customization interface.

Such a line in org-agenda-custom-commands seems to work:

("#" "Stuck projects" stuck "" ((org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks nil)))

-Jean-Marie