Best book to get from novice to guru?

Best book to get from novice to guru?

[Birnle]

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Dear group,

Since I like to know my daily used software „by heart“ and I really 
don’t want to ask too many silly questions, here’s another:

Which book (or books) do I have to read / work through to get from 
Emacs/Org novice to (almost) guru? Which is/are the best in your 
opinion?

I’ve seen that there is

- the *GNU Emacs Manual* from Richard Stallman
- *The Org Mode 7 Reference Manual* from Carsten Dominik and others
- *Mastering Emacs* from Mickey Petersen (www.masteringemacs.org)

Are there more? Which one is obligatory? And I know the sites

- www.emacswiki.org
- orgmode.org

and some others. All the good information is out there, but where is it 
bundled in one (or two or three) book(s)?

And is it necessary to learn Lisp in order to master Emacs?

Best,
Birnle


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Re: Best book to get from novice to guru?

[Eric S Fraga]

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On Tuesday, 13 Jun 2017 at 02:00, Birnle wrote:
> Which book (or books) do I have to read / work through to get from
> Emacs/Org novice to (almost) guru? Which is/are the best in your
> opinion?

Much of emacs, including the various subsystems (gnus, org, calc, ...)
is documented via the info system (C-h i) inside emacs.

[...]

> And is it necessary to learn Lisp in order to master Emacs?

Yes.

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: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 26.0.50, Org release_9.0.7-531-g530113

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Re: Best book to get from novice to guru?

[Nikolay Kudryavtsev]

The answer - all of them are good.

Emacs and Org manuals are available from inside of Emacs with every 
installation. They describe out-of-box capabilities of Emacs and Org 
respectively. Ideally you want to skimp through them, so you'd 
understand what's available. Then you can reference them as needed.

Mastering Emacs is a tips and tricks book. It's good, but no replacement 
for the manuals.

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Best Regards,
Nikolay Kudryavtsev

Re: Best book to get from novice to guru?

[Birnle]

Dear group,

To sum up the two (!) answers on these foundational 


# questions:

1. Which is the best book to get from Emacs/Org novice to guru?

2. Do I have to learn Lisp in order to master Emacs?


# Answers:

1. All of the mentioned books are good; read the manuals that come with Emacs and Org mode; "Mastering Emacs" is a good tips book, but no manual replacement.

2. Yes.


Thank you, Nikolay and Eric!

Best,
Birnle


> Am 13.6.2017 um 04:00 h schrieb Birnle <birnle@gmx.de>:
> 
> Dear group,
> 
> Since I like to know my daily used software „by heart“ and I really don’t want to ask too many silly questions, here’s another:
> 
> Which book (or books) do I have to read / work through to get from Emacs/Org novice to (almost) guru? Which is/are the best in your opinion?
> 
> I’ve seen that there is
> 
> • the GNU Emacs Manual from Richard Stallman
> • The Org Mode 7 Reference Manual from Carsten Dominik and others
> • Mastering Emacs from Mickey Petersen (www.masteringemacs.org)
> Are there more? Which one is obligatory? And I know the sites
> 
> • www.emacswiki.org
> • orgmode.org
> and some others. All the good information is out there, but where is it bundled in one (or two or three) book(s)?
> 
> And is it necessary to learn Lisp in order to master Emacs?
> 
> Best,
> Birnle