org-info.js - new version with tags index

org-info.js - new version with tags index

[Sebastian Rose]

Hello list,


Rick Moynihan requested a table of contents sorted by tags
(http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2008-07/msg00434.html). 
The new version on http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git provides a the
shortcut 'C' to show such an index:


Tag1
   - Headline with tag1
   - Another headline with tag1 and tag2

Tag2
   - Headline with tag2
   - Another headline with tag1 and tag2


There is no inheritance though. As for the most cases, the links
lead to the local toc showing all subsections. Maybe inheritance
should be an option?


The 'HELP' link et al should be fixed too (i.e. they look like links 
now, because of a 'href' attribute).




All the best,

  - Sebastian

Re: org-info.js - new version with tags index

[Rick Moynihan]

Sebastian Rose wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> 
> Rick Moynihan requested a table of contents sorted by tags
> (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2008-07/msg00434.html). 
> The new version on http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git provides a the
> shortcut 'C' to show such an index:
> 
> 
> Tag1
>    - Headline with tag1
>    - Another headline with tag1 and tag2
> 
> Tag2
>    - Headline with tag2
>    - Another headline with tag1 and tag2

Excellent!  Thanks for this, it works great!  My only issue is that the 
tags in the table, don't look like links, or look clickable.  Admitedly 
this only becomes an issue when others are browsing a file published 
with org-info.js.

Also it would be handy to be able to hyperlink directly to this (and the 
other table of contents).

> There is no inheritance though. As for the most cases, the links
> lead to the local toc showing all subsections. Maybe inheritance
> should be an option?

I personally don't tend to use inheritance a lot, but I can see how it 
could be useful.

On an unrelated topic, what struck me as interesting was how similar 
org-info.js is to s5 (the XHTML/CSS/js) presentation format.  I did 
mention this briefly here:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2668/focus=7656

I took a look at what would be required to re-style 
org-info.js/org-publish files like s5; and it looked possible but my 
XHTML/CSS/js skills are a little rusty.

What do you think it would take to modify org-info.js into a 
presentation format like s5?  Writing presentations in org-mode and then 
publishing to XHTML/org-info.js seems like a great idea, and it strikes 
me that org-info.js is already pretty close.

I'm not entirely sure what s5 offers that this combination doesn't, but 
it seems to largely be around ensuring that slides are scaled to fit 
into the browser-window, rather than scrolling, and that the slides are 
styled more minimally and a little more like a powerpoint file.

Thanks again for your hard work!!

R.

Slides with Org

[Sebastian Rose]

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Hi,


Rick asked for Slides from Org-modes HTML export recently.
While there is no real support slides in org-info.js, I
still gave it try to have a poor mans slides.

The main missing thing was the ability to navigate the
section by clicking the window. This is now added and in
the worg git.

Please review and complain :-)



What's new?

   - press 'x' to switch to slide view mode.
   - #+INFOJS_OPT: view:slide

   In slide view mode:

   - click to go to the next section
   - dblclick to go back.


A little demo is attached to this email (unpack, go to the
folder org-slides and open slides.html in your browser.



For REAL slides a different tool should be written (using jQuery
or similar). Since slides are so different from 'normal' HTML, I
guess they would blow the scripts size. If I think of slides, I
think of efects.




Have Fun,

  - Sebastian




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Re: Slides with Org

[Manish]

  On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
  > Hi,
  >
  >
  > Rick asked for Slides from Org-modes HTML export recently.
  > While there is no real support slides in org-info.js, I
  > still gave it try to have a poor mans slides.
  >
  > The main missing thing was the ability to navigate the
  > section by clicking the window. This is now added and in
  > the worg git.
  >
  > Please review and complain :-)

:)

A request, can we have navigation using arrow keys and space bar
please?

  > A little demo is attached to this email (unpack, go to the
  > folder org-slides and open slides.html in your browser.

Perhaps it would be nice to add org-info.js with the demo bundle.

Thank you.

-- Manish

Re: Slides with Org

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:27:41 +0200, Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> said:

SR> For REAL slides a different tool should be written (using jQuery
SR> or similar).

FYI, I'd think it'd be pretty trivial to make the latex output support
latex/beamer, which does a great job producing pdf slides.
-- 
"In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap,
 and much more difficult to find."  -- Terry Pratchett

Re: Slides with Org

[Rick Moynihan]

Sebastian Rose wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Rick asked for Slides from Org-modes HTML export recently.
> While there is no real support slides in org-info.js, I
> still gave it try to have a poor mans slides.
> 
> The main missing thing was the ability to navigate the
> section by clicking the window. This is now added and in
> the worg git.
> 
> Please review and complain :-)

Before my 'complaints':  Thanks a bunch, this is great!!! :-)  The 
org-mode continue to amaze me!

So, after taking a look at your example the first thing that jumps out 
at me is the hack you've used to reveal individual bullet points one by one:

* Overview

   + Create the Org-mode file

* Overview

   + Create the Org-mode file
   + Export the Org-mode file to XHTML

* Overview

   + Create the Org-mode file
   + Export the Org-mode file to XHTML
   + Create a stylesheet for slides

Whilst this works, it doesn't seem entirely practical to duplicate the 
content like this, particularly in a larger slide stack.  Could we use 
properties to control this?  Reducing the previous outline to something 
like this:

* Overview
   :PROPERTIES:
   :reveal:   t
   :END:

   + Create the Org-mode file
   + Export the Org-mode file to XHTML
   + Create a stylesheet for slides

Another suggestion, would be to offer more control over the title 
heading.  Currently it seems that the heading is always the #+TITLE: 
rather than the current slides heading.  A more sensible default would 
be to render the slides title here, with an option to have it be the 
presentations title.

It also seems that the double-clicking/sensitivity when returning to a 
previous slide sometimes feels hard to perform.  i.e. sometimes you 
click too slow and progress forward rather than back.  This may or may 
not be something you have control over.  As other's have suggested, 
supporting the back/forward keys and spacebar for flicking through 
slides would be nice too.

Another feature suggestion might be support for automated timings. 
Where after loading a presentation pushing a button sets it off with 
each slide being displayed for a specified time, according to an 
overidable default (in seconds) e.g.

#+INFOJS_OPT: timing:30

With overiding supported through property drawers:

* Example of timings (whole slide takes 20 seconds)
   :PROPERTIES:
   :timing: 20
   :reveal: t
   :END:

   + Wait on this point for 10 seconds
   + Wait on this point for 10 seconds then push onto next slide

Finally, if possible, perhaps a class property could be used to control 
which CSS class a slide is rendered with?  This might allow better 
control over certain slides where, for example you *ONLY* want a large 
image to be displayed centred without a title etc...

As an aside, would it be possible to push org-info-js up into it's own 
git repo, with the slides example you posted?  Checking it out through 
Worg is a mild pain, and it seems deserving of it's own repo.

> For REAL slides a different tool should be written (using jQuery
> or similar). Since slides are so different from 'normal' HTML, I
> guess they would blow the scripts size. If I think of slides, I
> think of efects.

Yes, effects and transitions would be a nice bonus and should be 
achievable through libraries like scriptaculous and jquery...

Thanks again for your hardwork!

R.

Re: Slides with Org

[Carsten Dominik]

Awesome, you did it again.  What better way t make notes during a  
meeting and present them at the end.

- Carsten

On Aug 28, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Rick asked for Slides from Org-modes HTML export recently.
> While there is no real support slides in org-info.js, I
> still gave it try to have a poor mans slides.
>
> The main missing thing was the ability to navigate the
> section by clicking the window. This is now added and in
> the worg git.
>
> Please review and complain :-)
>
>
>
> What's new?
>
>  - press 'x' to switch to slide view mode.
>  - #+INFOJS_OPT: view:slide
>
>  In slide view mode:
>
>  - click to go to the next section
>  - dblclick to go back.
>
>
> A little demo is attached to this email (unpack, go to the
> folder org-slides and open slides.html in your browser.
>
>
>
> For REAL slides a different tool should be written (using jQuery
> or similar). Since slides are so different from 'normal' HTML, I
> guess they would blow the scripts size. If I think of slides, I
> think of efects.
>
>
>
>
> Have Fun,
>
> - Sebastian
>
>
>
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