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From: Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho <tuliom@ascii.art.br>
To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Subject: Re: Feature request: Search header Reply-to when using search prefix from
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2021 15:56:21 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tuk7d6ay.fsf@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lf5jzwlx.fsf@tethera.net>

David Bremner <david@tethera.net> writes:

> Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho <tuliom@ascii.art.br> writes:
>
> Long delayed reply:
>
> Your message finally reached the list and I've tagged it as a feature
> request.

Thanks!

> I personally prefer to search for lists by List-Id. Can you explain a
> bit why that doesn't work for you?

Me too, but in many cases I have to search for the author of the message without
remembering if the message was sent directly to me or via a mailing list.

However, with mailing lists adopting DMARC, the From: header is being
manipulated and can't be trusted for searches anymore [1].
If it's hard to understand what is happening, look at the From: header from this
archived mbox [2] sent to libc-alpha.
You will notice the different email addresses in From: and Reply-To:. I hope it
helps to understand why a search for from:tuliom would not return that message.

The mailing list had to do this so that people with a DMARC-enabled email could
continue to receive messages from the mailing list.

[1] https://dmarc.org/wiki/FAQ#I_operate_a_mailing_list_and_I_want_to_interoperate_with_DMARC.2C_what_should_I_do.3F

[2] https://public-inbox.org/libc-alpha/878s26l76b.fsf@linux.ibm.com/raw

> One implementation issue is that without adding another value slot, regular
> expression searches would not work for things that were only in
> Reply-To, which is pretty confusing. I don't know what the resource cost
> of adding a value slot is, but I'm a bit leery of adding too many.

I see.

-- 
Tulio Magno

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-02 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-26 16:24 Feature request: Search header Reply-to when using search prefix from Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho
2021-08-02 15:37 ` David Bremner
2021-08-02 18:56   ` Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho [this message]
2021-08-12 17:34     ` David Bremner

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