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From: Lukasz Stelmach <stlman@poczta.fm>
To: Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: do not change users' mail agent configuration
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 22:54:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <548CB582.4040807@poczta.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k31vqn1h.fsf@nikula.org>

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On 13.12.2014 22:04, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2014, Łukasz Stelmach <stlman@poczta.fm> wrote:
>> `mail-user-agent' is defined with defcustom and may be customised
>> by users. It should not be set to arbitrary values in modules.
> 
> Point taken.
> 
>> To make use of that configuration value call `compose-mail' which
>> starts user's preferred mail composition package as selected with
>> the variable `mail-user-agent' instead of notmuch's hardcoded
>> `message-mail'.
> 
> So your proposed change is that `notmuch-mua-mail` should start
> whichever mua the user has configured in `mail-user-agent` instead of
> the notmuch mail composition window, as described in the function
> documentation? I don't think I like that either.
> 
> Maybe we should let bind `mail-user-agent` instead?


Actually `message-mail` isn't a "notmuch mail composition window" but
rather a "mail composition window" implemented in message.el which is a
part of Emacs.  Even more, it is the default "mail composition window"
in Emacs because the default value of `mail-user-agent`, as defined in
simple.el, is `message-user-agent` (since Emacs 23.3 as described in a
comment in `compose-mail` function therein) which causes to be launched by
`compose-mail`.

TL;DR with the mail-user-agent variable set to the default value nothing
      changes for a notmuch user.

>> ---
>>  NEWS                 | 10 ++++++++++
>>  emacs/notmuch-mua.el |  2 +-
>>  emacs/notmuch.el     |  2 --
>>  3 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/NEWS b/NEWS
>> index 44e8d05..cf5b3c3 100644
>> --- a/NEWS
>> +++ b/NEWS
>> @@ -64,6 +64,16 @@ Added `notmuch address` subcommand
>>  Emacs Interface
>>  ---------------
>>  
>> +Fixed `mail-user-agent` handling
>> +
>> +  The value of the mail-user-agent variable is not forcibly set to
>> +  `notmuch-user-agent`, regardles of how a user has customised it,
>> +  everytime notmuch.el is loaded. This way, someone who used for example
>> +  Gnus has her MUA and notmuch just as a search engine, doesn't have her
>> +  configuration broken everytime notmuch.el is loaded. The user can now
>> +  use her favourite mail composing package when replying messages in
>> +  notmuch too.
> 
> I understand you're annoyed at the current behaviour, but please don't
> pour that annoyance into notmuch NEWS. Thank you.

It wasn't my intention. I wasn't even sure I should add to NEWS anything
at all but the "Contributing" page says to update NEWS if a change is
user visible. Considering what I wrote above, do you think it is visible?

 
> BR,
> Jani.
> 
> 
>> +
>>  Use the `j` key to access saved searches from anywhere in notmuch
>>  
>>    `j` is now globally bound to `notmuch-jump`, which provides fast,
>> diff --git a/emacs/notmuch-mua.el b/emacs/notmuch-mua.el
>> index 2c58886..f02c7b5 100644
>> --- a/emacs/notmuch-mua.el
>> +++ b/emacs/notmuch-mua.el
>> @@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ OTHER-ARGS are passed through to `message-mail'."
>>      (push (cons 'From (concat
>>  		       (notmuch-user-name) " <" (notmuch-user-primary-email) ">")) other-headers))
>>  
>> -  (apply #'message-mail to subject other-headers other-args)
>> +  (apply #'compose-mail to subject other-headers other-args)
>>    (message-sort-headers)
>>    (message-hide-headers)
>>    (set-buffer-modified-p nil)
>> diff --git a/emacs/notmuch.el b/emacs/notmuch.el
>> index 218486a..80cab57 100644
>> --- a/emacs/notmuch.el
>> +++ b/emacs/notmuch.el
>> @@ -1037,8 +1037,6 @@ notmuch buffers exist, run `notmuch'."
>>  	  (switch-to-buffer first))
>>        (notmuch))))
>>  
>> -(setq mail-user-agent 'notmuch-user-agent)
>> -
>>  (provide 'notmuch)
>>  
>>  ;; After provide to avoid loops if notmuch was require'd via notmuch-init-file.
>> -- 
>> 2.0.4
>>
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> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-13 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-12 18:54 [PATCH] emacs: do not change users' mail agent configuration Łukasz Stelmach
2014-12-13 21:04 ` Jani Nikula
2014-12-13 21:54   ` Lukasz Stelmach [this message]
2014-12-14  9:46     ` Jani Nikula
2014-12-14 23:49       ` Lukasz Stelmach
2017-08-23 13:40         ` Importing notmuch should not change user configuration David Bremner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-08-23 12:07 Christoph Groth

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