how to work with entire threads

how to work with entire threads

[Vladimir Marek]

Hi,

I would like to create the following process:

 1) if I tag any message with the keyword 'kill', it means that I don't
   want to see any message from whole thread in my inbox

At the moment I do something like

THREADS=$(notmuch search --output=threads tag:kill)
[ -z "$THREADS" ] || notmuch tag -unread -- '(' $THREADS ')'

 2) if there is such a 'killed' thread and it won't receive message for
30 days, I want to remove the kill tag from the thread

That I achieved by something like

N=notmuch
KILL=$( $N search --output=threads tag:kill )                                                                                                                                                          
if [ -n "$KILL" ]; then
   # Then find threads which contain messages younger than 30 days
   KILL_RECENT=$( $N search --output=threads '(' $KILL ')' and date:30days.. )
   KILL_RECENT=${KILL_RECENT:-'*'}
   # Then find 'kill' threads not matching those recent
   KILL_COUNT=$( $N count --output=threads '(' $KILL ')' and not '(' $KILL_RECENT ')' )
   if [ $KILL_COUNT -gt 0 ]; then
      echo "Threads to remove 'kill': $KILL"
      $N tag -kill -- $( $N search --output=threads '(' $KILL ')' and not '(' $KILL_RECENT ')' )
   fi
fi



I was thinking if it could not be simplified. Without knowing anything about
notmuch or xapian internals, it seems that it would be handy to change the
search pattern to return threads. My two previous examples would then read like

1) notmuch tag -unread -- 'threads(tag:kill)'
and
2) notmuch tag -kill -- 'threads(tag:kill)' and not 'threads(date:30days..)'

Given that this would be possible in the first place, wouldn't it be a nice
addition to notmuch?

Thank you
-- 
	Vlad

Re: how to work with entire threads

[Mark Walters]

Hi
Vladimir Marek <Vladimir.Marek@Oracle.COM> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to create the following process:
>
>  1) if I tag any message with the keyword 'kill', it means that I don't
>    want to see any message from whole thread in my inbox
>
> At the moment I do something like
>
> THREADS=$(notmuch search --output=threads tag:kill)
> [ -z "$THREADS" ] || notmuch tag -unread -- '(' $THREADS ')'
>
>  2) if there is such a 'killed' thread and it won't receive message for
> 30 days, I want to remove the kill tag from the thread
>
> That I achieved by something like
>
> N=notmuch
> KILL=$( $N search --output=threads tag:kill )                                                                                                                                                          
> if [ -n "$KILL" ]; then
>    # Then find threads which contain messages younger than 30 days
>    KILL_RECENT=$( $N search --output=threads '(' $KILL ')' and date:30days.. )
>    KILL_RECENT=${KILL_RECENT:-'*'}
>    # Then find 'kill' threads not matching those recent
>    KILL_COUNT=$( $N count --output=threads '(' $KILL ')' and not '(' $KILL_RECENT ')' )
>    if [ $KILL_COUNT -gt 0 ]; then
>       echo "Threads to remove 'kill': $KILL"
>       $N tag -kill -- $( $N search --output=threads '(' $KILL ')' and not '(' $KILL_RECENT ')' )
>    fi
> fi
>
>
>
> I was thinking if it could not be simplified. Without knowing anything about
> notmuch or xapian internals, it seems that it would be handy to change the
> search pattern to return threads. My two previous examples would then read like
>
> 1) notmuch tag -unread -- 'threads(tag:kill)'
> and
> 2) notmuch tag -kill -- 'threads(tag:kill)' and not 'threads(date:30days..)'
>
> Given that this would be possible in the first place, wouldn't it be a nice
> addition to notmuch?

Some form of general thread based search would definitely be a nice
addition. This seems to be non-trivial as we would need to parse the
query ourselves rather than leaving that to xapian.

However, I think thread bases tagging would be quite easy:

eg

notmuch tag --thread +/-tags <search-term>

to tag all messages in all threads that contain a message match the
search terms. Your first case would become notmuch tag --thread
-unread tag:kill but your second case would still not be directly
possible.

Would this be a useful addition by itself?

Best wishes

Mark

Re: Re: how to work with entire threads

[Vladimir Marek]

> > I would like to create the following process:
> >
> >  1) if I tag any message with the keyword 'kill', it means that I don't
> >    want to see any message from whole thread in my inbox
> >
> > At the moment I do something like
> >
> > THREADS=$(notmuch search --output=threads tag:kill)
> > [ -z "$THREADS" ] || notmuch tag -unread -- '(' $THREADS ')'
> >
> >  2) if there is such a 'killed' thread and it won't receive message for
> > 30 days, I want to remove the kill tag from the thread
> >
> > That I achieved by something like
> >
> > N=notmuch
> > KILL=$( $N search --output=threads tag:kill )                                                                                                                                                          
> > if [ -n "$KILL" ]; then
> >    # Then find threads which contain messages younger than 30 days
> >    KILL_RECENT=$( $N search --output=threads '(' $KILL ')' and date:30days.. )
> >    KILL_RECENT=${KILL_RECENT:-'*'}
> >    # Then find 'kill' threads not matching those recent
> >    KILL_COUNT=$( $N count --output=threads '(' $KILL ')' and not '(' $KILL_RECENT ')' )
> >    if [ $KILL_COUNT -gt 0 ]; then
> >       echo "Threads to remove 'kill': $KILL"
> >       $N tag -kill -- $( $N search --output=threads '(' $KILL ')' and not '(' $KILL_RECENT ')' )
> >    fi
> > fi
> >
> >
> >
> > I was thinking if it could not be simplified. Without knowing anything about
> > notmuch or xapian internals, it seems that it would be handy to change the
> > search pattern to return threads. My two previous examples would then read like
> >
> > 1) notmuch tag -unread -- 'threads(tag:kill)'
> > and
> > 2) notmuch tag -kill -- 'threads(tag:kill)' and not 'threads(date:30days..)'
> >
> > Given that this would be possible in the first place, wouldn't it be a nice
> > addition to notmuch?
> 
> Some form of general thread based search would definitely be a nice
> addition. This seems to be non-trivial as we would need to parse the
> query ourselves rather than leaving that to xapian.
> 
> However, I think thread bases tagging would be quite easy:
> 
> eg
> 
> notmuch tag --thread +/-tags <search-term>
> 
> to tag all messages in all threads that contain a message match the
> search terms. Your first case would become notmuch tag --thread
> -unread tag:kill but your second case would still not be directly
> possible.
> 
> Would this be a useful addition by itself?


As you said, marking whole threads as read would be a case I would use
regularly. If anyone is willing to add that feature, I would be glad.

Even the second case would be possible, just not as elegant (but still
better than my shell construct)

notmuch tag --thread +kill -- tag:kill
notmuch tag -kill -- tag:kill and not date:30days..

Cheers
-- 
	Vlad