https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

[Yin Fengwei]

Hi,
The archive of linux-mm on https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/ stopped at
2023-05-31.


Regards
Yin, Fengwei

Re: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

[Eric Wong]

Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> The archive of linux-mm on https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/ stopped at
> 2023-05-31.

Looks like it restarted but is still missing messages.

I suspect problems at kernel.org on May 31 caused kvack.org to
unsubscribe the account lore was using to receive messages.
Help from other subscribers will be necessary to restore
messages dropped during the gap.

(I don't have insider knowledge of operations at (kernel|kvack).org)

Re: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

[Yin, Fengwei]

On 6/7/2023 8:07 AM, Eric Wong wrote:
> Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> The archive of linux-mm on https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/ stopped at
>> 2023-05-31.
> 
> Looks like it restarted but is still missing messages.
> 
> I suspect problems at kernel.org on May 31 caused kvack.org to
> unsubscribe the account lore was using to receive messages.
> Help from other subscribers will be necessary to restore
> messages dropped during the gap.
Do you mean subscribed to linux-mm? My colleagues and I did subscribe
linux-mm. Just let me know how we can help here. Thanks.


Regards
Yin, Fengwei

> 
> (I don't have insider knowledge of operations at (kernel|kvack).org)

Re: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

[Eric Wong]

"Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
> On 6/7/2023 8:07 AM, Eric Wong wrote:
> > I suspect problems at kernel.org on May 31 caused kvack.org to
> > unsubscribe the account lore was using to receive messages.
> > Help from other subscribers will be necessary to restore
> > messages dropped during the gap.
> 
> Do you mean subscribed to linux-mm? My colleagues and I did subscribe
> linux-mm. Just let me know how we can help here. Thanks.

Messages on lore.kernel.org show up because an email address
they control receives messages from the linux-mm list.  Since
(I assume) kvack.org is controlled by someone else, kernel.org
needs to subscribe to the linux-mm list just like you or anyone
else.

kernel.org either runs public-inbox-mda or public-inbox-watch to
inject messages they receive from linux-mm into the public-inbox.
So, something like this:

   https://public-inbox.org/flow.txt

(the entire lore.kernel.org setup is 100% reproducible using
public-inbox software)

Re: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

[Yin, Fengwei]

On 6/7/2023 10:30 AM, Eric Wong wrote:
> "Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>> On 6/7/2023 8:07 AM, Eric Wong wrote:
>>> I suspect problems at kernel.org on May 31 caused kvack.org to
>>> unsubscribe the account lore was using to receive messages.
>>> Help from other subscribers will be necessary to restore
>>> messages dropped during the gap.
>>
>> Do you mean subscribed to linux-mm? My colleagues and I did subscribe
>> linux-mm. Just let me know how we can help here. Thanks.
> 
> Messages on lore.kernel.org show up because an email address
> they control receives messages from the linux-mm list.  Since
> (I assume) kvack.org is controlled by someone else, kernel.org
> needs to subscribe to the linux-mm list just like you or anyone
> else.
Oh. So the problem is kernel.org does not subscribe to linux-mm
after May 31st? Thanks.


Regards
Yin, Fengwei

> 
> kernel.org either runs public-inbox-mda or public-inbox-watch to
> inject messages they receive from linux-mm into the public-inbox.
> So, something like this:
> 
>    https://public-inbox.org/flow.txt
> 
> (the entire lore.kernel.org setup is 100% reproducible using
> public-inbox software)

Re: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

[Yin, Fengwei]

On 6/7/2023 10:30 AM, Eric Wong wrote:
> "Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>> On 6/7/2023 8:07 AM, Eric Wong wrote:
>>> I suspect problems at kernel.org on May 31 caused kvack.org to
>>> unsubscribe the account lore was using to receive messages.
>>> Help from other subscribers will be necessary to restore
>>> messages dropped during the gap.
>>
>> Do you mean subscribed to linux-mm? My colleagues and I did subscribe
>> linux-mm. Just let me know how we can help here. Thanks.
> 
> Messages on lore.kernel.org show up because an email address
> they control receives messages from the linux-mm list.  Since
> (I assume) kvack.org is controlled by someone else, kernel.org
> needs to subscribe to the linux-mm list just like you or anyone
> else.
> 
> kernel.org either runs public-inbox-mda or public-inbox-watch to
> inject messages they receive from linux-mm into the public-inbox.
> So, something like this:
> 
>    https://public-inbox.org/flow.txt
> 
> (the entire lore.kernel.org setup is 100% reproducible using
> public-inbox software)

Just notice the linux-mm on lore already have new thread from:
[PATCH 00/12] mm: free retracted page table by RCU
 2023-06-06 19:40 UTC  (9+ messages)
` [PATCH 01/12] mm/pgtable: add rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock()s
` [PATCH 07/12] s390: add pte_free_defer(), with use of mmdrop_async()
` [PATCH 09/12] mm/khugepaged: retract_page_tables() without mmap or vma lock
` [PATCH 10/12] mm/khugepaged: collapse_pte_mapped_thp() with mmap_read_lock()

to the latest thread on linux-mm.

So I suppose the archive of linux-mm is back. That's great.


But there are gaps between 2023-05-31 17:02 to 2023-06-06 19:40.



Regards
Yin, Fengwei

Re: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

[Konstantin Ryabitsev]

On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 10:41:18AM +0800, Yin, Fengwei wrote:
> > Messages on lore.kernel.org show up because an email address
> > they control receives messages from the linux-mm list.  Since
> > (I assume) kvack.org is controlled by someone else, kernel.org
> > needs to subscribe to the linux-mm list just like you or anyone
> > else.
> Oh. So the problem is kernel.org does not subscribe to linux-mm
> after May 31st? Thanks.

We had a mail server configuration problem that was a result of thousands of
zombie hosts all trying to relay mail via mail.kernel.org. This caused our
public RBL lookups to fail with "you're using us too much!" error, which
unfortunately fails in the worst possible ways -- by marking all RBL lookups
as spam.

Our monitoring quickly alerted us to this, but unfortunately we did bounce
pretty much all incoming mail for about 10-15 minutes. If there was a patch
series coming in during that time, that would have generated enough bounces to
cause the archiver address to be unsubscribed.

This is the reason why there's a gap from May 31 to June 6. If you would like
to contribute the missing messages, I'll be happy to feed them into the
archive.

-K

Re: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

[Yin Fengwei]

On 6/7/23 21:45, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 10:41:18AM +0800, Yin, Fengwei wrote:
>>> Messages on lore.kernel.org show up because an email address
>>> they control receives messages from the linux-mm list.  Since
>>> (I assume) kvack.org is controlled by someone else, kernel.org
>>> needs to subscribe to the linux-mm list just like you or anyone
>>> else.
>> Oh. So the problem is kernel.org does not subscribe to linux-mm
>> after May 31st? Thanks.
> 
> We had a mail server configuration problem that was a result of thousands of
> zombie hosts all trying to relay mail via mail.kernel.org. This caused our
> public RBL lookups to fail with "you're using us too much!" error, which
> unfortunately fails in the worst possible ways -- by marking all RBL lookups
> as spam.
> 
> Our monitoring quickly alerted us to this, but unfortunately we did bounce
> pretty much all incoming mail for about 10-15 minutes. If there was a patch
> series coming in during that time, that would have generated enough bounces to
> cause the archiver address to be unsubscribed.
> 
> This is the reason why there's a gap from May 31 to June 6. If you would like
> to contribute the missing messages, I'll be happy to feed them into the
> archive.
I'd love to. I do subscribe the linux-mm. But I subscribe other kernel mailing
lists (fsdev and ext4-dev) with same mail address. I can do:
  1. export all emails I got from May 31 to June 6 (Maybe from May 30 to June 7) to
     a mbox file
  2. export all emails with linux-mm as Cc/To/From from May 31 to June 6 to a mbox
     file

And upload the mbox file to somewhere. Just let me know what I should do.

I'd like to say the lore archives are really helpful to my colleagues and myself.
Really appreciate your guys' great work.


Regards
Yin, Fengwei

> 
> -K

Re: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

[Jonathan Corbet]

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> writes:

> This is the reason why there's a gap from May 31 to June 6. If you would like
> to contribute the missing messages, I'll be happy to feed them into the
> archive.

The LWN archive - http://archive.lwn.net:8080/linux-mm/ - is intact as
far as I know; feel free, as always, to pillage from it if that helps.

jon

Re: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/

[Konstantin Ryabitsev]

On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 12:40:52AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> > This is the reason why there's a gap from May 31 to June 6. If you would like
> > to contribute the missing messages, I'll be happy to feed them into the
> > archive.
> 
> The LWN archive - http://archive.lwn.net:8080/linux-mm/ - is intact as
> far as I know; feel free, as always, to pillage from it if that helps.

Oh, nice, I will dip into that, thank you!

-K