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* [PATCH] doc/extindex: document --dedupe switch
@ 2023-11-24  4:18 Eric Wong
  2023-11-24 12:50 ` Štěpán Němec
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2023-11-24  4:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: meta

We've had it since v1.7.0 when -extindex was introduced,
but it was never documented outside of commit messages.
---
 Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod | 26 +++++++++++++++++++++----
 1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod b/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
index be4ea4de..361eb43f 100644
--- a/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
+++ b/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
@@ -47,6 +47,20 @@ C<indexlevel> set to C<basic> and their respective Xapian
 public-inboxes where cross-posting is common, this allows
 significant space savings on Xapian indices.
 
+=item --dedupe=MSGID
+
+=item --dedupe
+
+Rerun deduplication on messages of a Message-IDs or all messages
+if no Message-ID is specified.  Deduplication rules may change
+and evolve over time, especially if filters are involved.
+
+C<--dedupe=MSGID> may be specified multiple times to deduplicate
+multiple Message-IDs.
+
+Use this if you see C<W: BUG? $MSGID not deduplicated properly>
+warnings from WWW logs.
+
 =item --gc
 
 Perform garbage collection instead of indexing.  Use this if
@@ -61,10 +75,6 @@ used for in-place upgrades and bugfixes while read-only server
 processes are utilizing the index.  Keep in mind this roughly
 doubles the size of the already-large Xapian database.
 
-The extindex locks will be released roughly every 10s to
-allow L<public-inbox-mda(1)> and L<public-inbox-watch(1)>
-processes to write to the extindex.
-
 =item --fast
 
 Used with C<--reindex>, it will only look for new and stale
@@ -131,6 +141,14 @@ Default: none, uses C<publicinbox.indexBatchSize>
 Occasionally, public-inbox will update its schema version and
 require a full index by running this command.
 
+=head1 LOCKING
+
+It is safe to use C<--dedupe>, C<--gc> and C<--reindex> while
+other processes are writing to covered inboxes or extindex.
+The extindex locks will be released roughly every 10s to
+allow L<public-inbox-mda(1)> and L<public-inbox-watch(1)>
+processes to write to the extindex.
+
 =head1 CONTACT
 
 Feedback welcome via plain-text mail to L<mailto:meta@public-inbox.org>

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* Re: [PATCH] doc/extindex: document --dedupe switch
  2023-11-24  4:18 [PATCH] doc/extindex: document --dedupe switch Eric Wong
@ 2023-11-24 12:50 ` Štěpán Němec
  2023-11-24 23:58   ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Štěpán Němec @ 2023-11-24 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Wong; +Cc: meta

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 04:18:19 +0000
Eric Wong wrote:

> --- a/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
> +++ b/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
> @@ -47,6 +47,20 @@ C<indexlevel> set to C<basic> and their respective Xapian
>  public-inboxes where cross-posting is common, this allows
>  significant space savings on Xapian indices.
>  
> +=item --dedupe=MSGID
> +
> +=item --dedupe
> +
> +Rerun deduplication on messages of a Message-IDs or all messages
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"with the given Message-ID"?  (or just drop the trailing "s")

> +if no Message-ID is specified.  Deduplication rules may change
> +and evolve over time, especially if filters are involved.
> +
> +C<--dedupe=MSGID> may be specified multiple times to deduplicate
> +multiple Message-IDs.

[...]

-- 
Štěpán

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* Re: [PATCH] doc/extindex: document --dedupe switch
  2023-11-24 12:50 ` Štěpán Němec
@ 2023-11-24 23:58   ` Eric Wong
  2023-11-25  8:36     ` Štěpán Němec
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2023-11-24 23:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Štěpán Němec; +Cc: meta

Štěpán Němec <stepnem@smrk.net> wrote:
> Eric Wong wrote:
> > +++ b/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
> > @@ -47,6 +47,20 @@ C<indexlevel> set to C<basic> and their respective Xapian
> >  public-inboxes where cross-posting is common, this allows
> >  significant space savings on Xapian indices.
> >  
> > +=item --dedupe=MSGID
> > +
> > +=item --dedupe
> > +
> > +Rerun deduplication on messages of a Message-IDs or all messages
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "with the given Message-ID"?  (or just drop the trailing "s")

Yes, the former, thanks.

I'm also wondering if it's necessary to have a blurb about NOT
supporting comma-delimited Message-IDs on the CLI, since some
strange Message-IDs may have a comma in them.

Anyways, I'll squash something like this in:

diff --git a/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod b/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
index 361eb43f..3a2911e2 100644
--- a/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
+++ b/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
@@ -51,9 +51,9 @@ significant space savings on Xapian indices.
 
 =item --dedupe
 
-Rerun deduplication on messages of a Message-IDs or all messages
-if no Message-ID is specified.  Deduplication rules may change
-and evolve over time, especially if filters are involved.
+Rerun deduplication on messages of with the given Message-ID or
+all messages if no Message-ID is specified.  Deduplication rules may
+change and evolve over time, especially if filters are involved.
 
 C<--dedupe=MSGID> may be specified multiple times to deduplicate
 multiple Message-IDs.

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* Re: [PATCH] doc/extindex: document --dedupe switch
  2023-11-24 23:58   ` Eric Wong
@ 2023-11-25  8:36     ` Štěpán Němec
  2023-11-25 11:49       ` Eric Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Štěpán Němec @ 2023-11-25  8:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Wong; +Cc: meta

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:58:29 +0000
Eric Wong wrote:

>> > +Rerun deduplication on messages of a Message-IDs or all messages
>>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> "with the given Message-ID"?  (or just drop the trailing "s")
>
> Yes, the former, thanks.
>
> I'm also wondering if it's necessary to have a blurb about NOT
> supporting comma-delimited Message-IDs on the CLI, since some
> strange Message-IDs may have a comma in them.

I think the description is already quite clear on that,
esp. given the subsequent "may be specified multiple times
...".  But the "on the CLI" qualification intrigues me: does
that mean that comma-delimited MIDs _are_ supported
somewhere else?

> Anyways, I'll squash something like this in:

[...]

> +Rerun deduplication on messages of with the given Message-ID or
                                   ^^^^^^^
not so fast :-P

> +all messages if no Message-ID is specified.  Deduplication rules may
> +change and evolve over time, especially if filters are involved.
>  
>  C<--dedupe=MSGID> may be specified multiple times to deduplicate
>  multiple Message-IDs.

Thanks,

  Štěpán

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* Re: [PATCH] doc/extindex: document --dedupe switch
  2023-11-25  8:36     ` Štěpán Němec
@ 2023-11-25 11:49       ` Eric Wong
  2023-11-25 20:25         ` [PATCH v3] " Eric Wong
  2023-11-25 21:35         ` [PATCH] " Štěpán Němec
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2023-11-25 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Štěpán Němec; +Cc: meta

Štěpán Němec <stepnem@smrk.net> wrote:
> Eric Wong wrote:
> >
> > I'm also wondering if it's necessary to have a blurb about NOT
> > supporting comma-delimited Message-IDs on the CLI, since some
> > strange Message-IDs may have a comma in them.
> 
> I think the description is already quite clear on that,
> esp. given the subsequent "may be specified multiple times
> ...".  But the "on the CLI" qualification intrigues me: does
> that mean that comma-delimited MIDs _are_ supported
> somewhere else?

Not MIDs, but lei has --lock= for various mbox locking methods.
cindex will also support combinations of
--join=aggressive,reset,dt:...,window:$INTEGER

I like to support commas when there's unambiguous keywords/commands
that can be easily parsed.  `dt:$approxidate' in --join could have
date-times with commas in them, but I don't think anybody would
use those characters in a command.

> > +Rerun deduplication on messages of with the given Message-ID or
>                                    ^^^^^^^
> not so fast :-P

Thanks.  Will s/of // when I commit when more awake.
Getting even more scatter-brained :x

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* [PATCH v3] doc/extindex: document --dedupe switch
  2023-11-25 11:49       ` Eric Wong
@ 2023-11-25 20:25         ` Eric Wong
  2023-11-25 21:35         ` [PATCH] " Štěpán Němec
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric Wong @ 2023-11-25 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Štěpán Němec; +Cc: meta

Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
> Štěpán Němec <stepnem@smrk.net> wrote:
> > Eric Wong wrote:
> > > +Rerun deduplication on messages of with the given Message-ID or
> >                                    ^^^^^^^
> > not so fast :-P
> 
> Thanks.  Will s/of // when I commit when more awake.
> Getting even more scatter-brained :x

OK, will probably push this out:

--------8<--------
Subject: [PATCH] doc/extindex: document --dedupe switch

We've had it since v1.7.0 when -extindex was introduced,
but it was never documented outside of commit messages.
---
 Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod | 26 +++++++++++++++++++++----
 1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod b/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
index be4ea4de..b53e45ed 100644
--- a/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
+++ b/Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod
@@ -47,6 +47,20 @@ C<indexlevel> set to C<basic> and their respective Xapian
 public-inboxes where cross-posting is common, this allows
 significant space savings on Xapian indices.
 
+=item --dedupe=MSGID
+
+=item --dedupe
+
+Rerun deduplication on messages with the given Message-ID or
+all messages if no Message-ID is specified.  Deduplication rules may
+change and evolve over time, especially if filters are involved.
+
+C<--dedupe=MSGID> may be specified multiple times to deduplicate
+multiple Message-IDs.
+
+Use this if you see C<W: BUG? $MSGID not deduplicated properly>
+warnings from WWW logs.
+
 =item --gc
 
 Perform garbage collection instead of indexing.  Use this if
@@ -61,10 +75,6 @@ used for in-place upgrades and bugfixes while read-only server
 processes are utilizing the index.  Keep in mind this roughly
 doubles the size of the already-large Xapian database.
 
-The extindex locks will be released roughly every 10s to
-allow L<public-inbox-mda(1)> and L<public-inbox-watch(1)>
-processes to write to the extindex.
-
 =item --fast
 
 Used with C<--reindex>, it will only look for new and stale
@@ -131,6 +141,14 @@ Default: none, uses C<publicinbox.indexBatchSize>
 Occasionally, public-inbox will update its schema version and
 require a full index by running this command.
 
+=head1 LOCKING
+
+It is safe to use C<--dedupe>, C<--gc> and C<--reindex> while
+other processes are writing to covered inboxes or extindex.
+The extindex locks will be released roughly every 10s to
+allow L<public-inbox-mda(1)> and L<public-inbox-watch(1)>
+processes to write to the extindex.
+
 =head1 CONTACT
 
 Feedback welcome via plain-text mail to L<mailto:meta@public-inbox.org>

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* Re: [PATCH] doc/extindex: document --dedupe switch
  2023-11-25 11:49       ` Eric Wong
  2023-11-25 20:25         ` [PATCH v3] " Eric Wong
@ 2023-11-25 21:35         ` Štěpán Němec
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Štěpán Němec @ 2023-11-25 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Wong; +Cc: meta

On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 11:49:39 +0000
Eric Wong wrote:

>> ...".  But the "on the CLI" qualification intrigues me: does
>> that mean that comma-delimited MIDs _are_ supported
>> somewhere else?
>
> Not MIDs, but lei has --lock= for various mbox locking methods.
> cindex will also support combinations of
> --join=aggressive,reset,dt:...,window:$INTEGER

I see, thanks.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:25:20 +0000
Eric Wong wrote:

> Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
>> Štěpán Němec <stepnem@smrk.net> wrote:
>> > Eric Wong wrote:
>> > > +Rerun deduplication on messages of with the given Message-ID or
>> >                                    ^^^^^^^
>> > not so fast :-P
>> 
>> Thanks.  Will s/of // when I commit when more awake.
>> Getting even more scatter-brained :x
>
> OK, will probably push this out:
>
> --------8<--------
> Subject: [PATCH] doc/extindex: document --dedupe switch
>
> We've had it since v1.7.0 when -extindex was introduced,
> but it was never documented outside of commit messages.
> ---
>  Documentation/public-inbox-extindex.pod | 26 +++++++++++++++++++++----
>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

LGTM

-- 
Štěpán

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