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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,  Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 10:23:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr13z452j.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zginqohs.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Wed, 08 Jun 2022 21:22:07 +0800")

Ihor Radchenko [2022-06-08 21:22:07] wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> AFAICT the problem seen from Emacs, is that Org is large (even for
>> a basic uses, which occasionally leads to high load times) and that it
>> doesn't follow all the usual Emacs conventions, such as
>> overriding/remapping standard key-bindings (the resulting behaviors may
>> sometimes be similar to the standard one, but even when that's the case
>> the redefinition can easily bite the user).
> I am not sure if I follow the argument. Major modes are allowed to
> change defaults. For example, special modes often change truncate-lines
> value. Org mode is also tweaking defaults (yes, many of them). I do not
> see any problem here in general.
> If you have some specific cases when Org mode alters Emacs defaults in a
> way that bites the user, please give concrete examples. Otherwise, your
> criticism is not very constructive.

[ Alan gave one or two concrete examples of things that bit him.  ]

This is not a criticism, just a description of how Org is perceived from
the side of "old-time Emacs users who aren't Org users".
The key in what you wrote above is the "yes, many of them", which means
that even tho those tweaks are minor they sum up to something that
old-time users will almost inevitably bump into.

It's not a problem for Org itself, and there are good reasons for each
one of those tweaks, I'm sure, but it does create opposition to using
Org "in core", such as in etc/NEWS.

> This is reasonable. RMS also asked for this years back
> https://orgmode.org/list/E1kIPh1-0001Lu-Rg@fencepost.gnu.org
> Since we cannot start Org from scratch, factoring out individual modules
> is taking a lot of time and having the hostile attitudes expressed in
> some of the emails in this thread is not exactly encouraging.

I know it's a lot of work and I'm glad you (plural) are taking it on,
and I'm not very happy about some of the things that have been said in
that thread, which is why I tried to start this thread.


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-08 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 505+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-04 13:14 Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-04 13:32 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-04 14:17   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-04 14:31     ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-04 17:39       ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-04 16:09     ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-04 17:27       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-04 21:10         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-05  8:38         ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-05  8:51           ` Po Lu
2022-06-05 10:26             ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-05 11:15               ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-05 16:52                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-06  0:19                 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-06  9:59                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-06 13:47                     ` Tim Cross
2022-06-06 14:15                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-06 11:33                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-06 12:26                     ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-06 13:57                     ` Tim Cross
2022-06-06 16:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-07  6:14                         ` Tim Cross
2022-06-07 11:21                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-08 13:12                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-08 14:15                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-08 15:15                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-08 16:16                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09  9:15                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-09  9:38                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  3:52                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-11  6:52                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  8:40                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12  8:56                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  9:46                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12  9:59                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-15  5:13                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-15 12:49                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-17  5:55                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-17  6:40                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18  4:40                                                             ` Limitations on using Org mode in buffers mixing Org markup with non-Org markup (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-18  7:10                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-19  5:15                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-18  5:10                                                             ` Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package Po Lu
2022-06-18 11:28                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-18 13:33                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-18 15:50                                                                   ` tomas
2022-06-18 16:00                                                                     ` Visuwesh
2022-06-18 17:13                                                                       ` tomas
2022-06-18 17:33                                                                         ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-18 23:27                                                                           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-18 17:45                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 17:55                                                                         ` Visuwesh
2022-06-18 18:39                                                                           ` tomas
2022-06-18 23:25                                                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-19  0:24                                                                           ` Tim Cross
2022-06-19  4:35                                                                             ` tomas
2022-06-19  5:36                                                                               ` Tim Cross
2022-06-19  6:43                                                                                 ` tomas
2022-06-19 17:03                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2022-06-19  1:48                                                                         ` Po Lu
2022-06-19  2:08                                                                           ` Tim Cross
2022-06-19  3:00                                                                             ` Po Lu
2022-06-19  6:07                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-19  6:41                                                                               ` Tim Cross
2022-06-18 23:22                                                                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-19 11:08                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-19 17:10                                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-20  6:05                                                             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-06-20  8:49                                                               ` Tim Cross
2022-06-12 13:53                                               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-06-12 20:07                                               ` Common keybindings idea for multiple markups Jean Louis
2022-06-08 19:34                             ` Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package Tim Cross
2022-06-09  5:18                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 19:48                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-11  4:09                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-07 16:02                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-07 18:14                             ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Stefan Monnier
2022-06-07 18:26                               ` Org mode and Emacs Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-07 18:48                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-07 18:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-07 19:38                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-07 20:54                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-07 22:10                               ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Tim Cross
2022-06-08  6:06                                 ` Org mode and Emacs Visuwesh
2022-06-08  6:58                                   ` Tim Cross
2022-06-09 22:31                                 ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Richard Stallman
2022-06-09 23:10                                   ` Tim Cross
2022-06-10  5:59                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  6:20                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-10  6:44                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  4:49                                           ` Tim Cross
2022-06-11  6:58                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  7:59                                               ` Tim Cross
2022-06-11  8:29                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  9:05                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12  9:18                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 10:04                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 10:15                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 10:38                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 14:36                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 15:31                                                           ` Org mode and Emacs Colin Baxter
2022-06-15  5:19                                                           ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-15  6:46                                                             ` Org mode and Emacs David Engster
2022-06-15  7:36                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-15 13:01                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-16  5:36                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-16  5:58                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-16  9:55                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-15 13:34                                                                 ` David Engster
2022-06-16  6:50                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-16 10:21                                                                     ` David Engster
2022-06-15 12:50                                                             ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-16  7:03                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-16  8:13                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-16 11:12                                                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-06-16 12:58                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-16 16:59                                                                       ` Org mode and Emacs Stefan Monnier
2022-06-17  7:18                                                                         ` Larger GC thresholds for non-interactive Emacs (was: Org mode and Emacs) Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-17 13:49                                                                           ` Larger GC thresholds for non-interactive Emacs Stefan Monnier
2022-06-17 15:11                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-17 15:30                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-17 16:05                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-17 16:11                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-18  5:35                                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-18 13:16                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-17 17:48                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-17 18:20                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-17 18:39                                                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-17 22:21                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-17 22:31                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-17 22:53                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-18  6:11                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 12:45                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-18 13:26                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-18  2:32                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-18 12:49                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-18 13:06                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-19 11:03                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-18 13:20                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-19 11:02                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-19 11:11                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-21  2:01                                                                                           ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-06-22  0:01                                                                                             ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-06-22 12:59                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-22 23:30                                                                                                 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-06-23  7:09                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-23  7:18                                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-23  7:37                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-23  8:02                                                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-23  8:24                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-23  9:03                                                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-23 10:08                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25  5:10                                                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-25  6:03                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-27  9:32                                                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-27 13:20                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-29  9:35                                                                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-25  7:51                                                                                                                   ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-25  8:28                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-23 17:07                                                                                                     ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-06-23 18:37                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-23 22:08                                                                                                         ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-06-24  6:53                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25 16:50                                                                                                             ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-06-22 23:26                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-22 23:48                                                                                               ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-06-20 12:42                                                                                       ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-06-19  7:25                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-19  8:51                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-19  9:23                                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-19  9:23                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-19 22:11                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-20 12:21                                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-23 22:12                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-25  5:13                                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-25  6:08                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25  8:33                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-18  5:58                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18 13:46                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-18 14:13                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-18  5:28                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-01  2:34                                                                             ` Lisp-level macro to avoid excessive GC in memory-allocating code (was: Larger GC thresholds for non-interactive Emacs) Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-01  6:18                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01  7:52                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-01 10:45                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01 11:12                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-01 13:56                                                                                       ` Lisp-level macro to avoid excessive GC in memory-allocating code Stefan Monnier
2022-07-01 14:10                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-21 13:04                                                                           ` Larger GC thresholds for non-interactive Emacs Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-21 13:35                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-16  3:19                                                             ` Org mode and Emacs Pankaj Jangid
2022-06-16  4:03                                                               ` Visuwesh
2022-09-25  2:14                                                           ` Bastien
2022-06-12 14:58                                                         ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-15  5:48                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-15 16:49                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-17  6:11                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-17  6:41                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 19:25                                                     ` Jean Louis
2022-06-13 12:14                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-13 22:37                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-14  0:43                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]                                                     ` <87h74mv56b.fsf@localhost>
2022-06-17  6:42                                                       ` Org syntax compatibility with texinfo syntax (was: Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package)) Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-14  2:28                                                   ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-14  2:45                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-14 11:04                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-14 11:18                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-14 11:44                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 22:38                                               ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-13  4:38                                                 ` Org mode and Emacs Werner LEMBERG
2022-06-13 16:28                                                 ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Christopher Dimech
2022-06-12  0:42                                             ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-12  1:27                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12  5:45                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 22:38                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-12 22:56                                                   ` Tim Cross
2022-06-13  0:39                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-13  1:42                                                       ` Tim Cross
2022-06-13  2:40                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-13  1:47                                                       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-13  2:47                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-13  5:04                                                           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-13  5:22                                                             ` Org mode and Emacs Werner LEMBERG
2022-06-13  5:59                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-13 11:54                                                       ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-14 13:32                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-14 13:45                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-15 23:15                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-17  6:43                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-14 13:18                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-14 13:38                                                     ` Org mode and Emacs Robert Pluim
2022-06-15  6:13                                                       ` Cusom special block export, similar org org-link :export parameter (was: Org mode and Emacs) Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-15 23:15                                                     ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Richard Stallman
2022-06-17  6:52                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12  0:42                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-12  1:39                                       ` Tim Cross
2022-06-12  2:40                                         ` Org mode and Emacs T.V Raman
2022-06-12  6:02                                         ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 22:38                                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-13  2:29                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  1:45                                       ` Org mode and Emacs Po Lu
2022-06-12  2:15                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12  2:36                                           ` David Masterson
2022-06-12  3:06                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12  3:39                                               ` David Masterson
2022-06-12  4:43                                                 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-12  5:08                                                   ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  5:20                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12  5:27                                                     ` Tim Cross
2022-06-12  5:53                                                   ` David Masterson
2022-06-12  6:56                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 18:29                                                       ` David Masterson
2022-06-14  5:09                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-19 23:48                                                           ` David Masterson
2022-06-20  0:03                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-20  0:24                                                               ` David Masterson
2022-06-12  3:28                                             ` Tim Cross
2022-06-12  2:50                                           ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  3:54                                             ` chad
2022-06-12  5:04                                               ` Po Lu
2022-06-12  7:02                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 22:38                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-12 22:38                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-12  6:21                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  6:57                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12  4:53                                       ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Christopher Dimech
2022-06-10 13:56                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-10 19:32                                   ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-08 13:22                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-08 13:33                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-08 14:23                                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2022-06-08 15:08                                   ` Org mode and Emacs Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 22:38                                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-07 21:51                             ` Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package Tim Cross
2022-06-08 19:26                               ` chad
2022-06-06 19:19                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-07 10:50                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2022-06-07 12:07                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-07 12:23                             ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2022-06-07 12:27                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-07  0:43                       ` Po Lu
2022-06-07  6:46                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-06-07  7:53                           ` Po Lu
2022-06-07 22:15                             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-06-08  0:36                               ` Po Lu
2022-06-08  6:41                                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-06-06 16:56                   ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-07 20:57                   ` Jean Louis
2022-06-08  6:50                     ` Tim Cross
2022-06-08  7:25                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-08  7:43                         ` Tim Cross
2022-06-08 11:27                           ` Jean Louis
2022-06-08 13:24                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-08 11:39                       ` Jean Louis
2022-06-11  6:40                       ` Jean Louis
2022-06-11 11:16                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2022-06-12 11:32                           ` Jean Louis
2022-06-12  2:23                         ` Tim Cross
2022-06-12 11:41                           ` Jean Louis
2022-06-12 21:58                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-13 22:37                             ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-05 11:23               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-06  0:33                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-06  0:41                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-06  0:59                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-06  1:07                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-06  1:33                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-06  7:39                         ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-08 12:56                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-06 12:54                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-06 12:56                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-08 12:55                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-05 11:29               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-05 13:39                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-05 14:24                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-05 14:38                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-05 11:45               ` Po Lu
2022-06-05 11:59                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-05 13:11                   ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-05 15:32                     ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-05 17:46                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-05 17:57                         ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-05 20:12                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-06  0:24                             ` Drew Adams
2022-06-06  0:48                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-06  1:18                                 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-06  1:38                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-06  1:41                                     ` Drew Adams
2022-06-06  1:47                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-06  7:44                                     ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-06  9:34                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-06  0:23                           ` Drew Adams
2022-06-06  7:20                             ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-06 15:10                               ` Drew Adams
2022-06-05 15:52                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-05 17:44                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-06 10:35                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-07 17:55                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-24  7:18                             ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-24  7:45                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-07-15 12:24                                 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-07-15 13:07                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-07-15 14:54                                     ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-24 15:42                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-24 17:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-26 10:25                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-26 12:22                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-26 13:08                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-26 15:23                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-27 10:04                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-27 12:12                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-27 14:29                                           ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-27 16:44                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-05 11:59               ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-08 17:21               ` Yoni Rabkin
2022-06-05 15:15             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-05 15:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-05 15:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-05 15:41                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-05 15:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-05 15:53                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-05 16:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-05 15:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-05 15:58                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-05 16:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-05 16:16                 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-05 17:40               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-08 12:51                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-08 14:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-08 14:38                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-08 14:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-08 15:44                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-08 17:37                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-09  3:11                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-08 16:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-04 17:32     ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-04 17:22   ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-04 16:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-05 12:29   ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-06-05 13:34     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-06  3:34       ` Akib Azmain Turja
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-09-25  2:52 Org mode and Emacs Payas Relekar
2022-09-25  6:35 ` Bastien
2022-09-25  7:05   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25  7:47     ` Bastien
2022-09-25  8:01       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25  8:22       ` Bastien Guerry
2022-09-25  8:01   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-25 19:47     ` Tim Cross
2022-09-26  6:12       ` Bastien
2022-09-26  6:35         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26  6:57           ` Bastien
2023-08-18 17:09             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-18 18:31               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 18:49                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-18 19:11                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 19:31                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19  5:51                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19  9:04                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19  9:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19  9:44                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 10:19                               ` Po Lu
2023-08-19 10:47                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 10:48                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 10:42                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 10:54                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-21  1:12                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21  7:56                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-23  2:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-23  9:44                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 11:01                       ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 11:12                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 12:49                           ` Po Lu
2023-08-23 17:18                             ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 17:47                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:02                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:08                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:18                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:36                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:46                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:50                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-25  1:11                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-23 16:53                           ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 17:56                             ` Tassilo Horn
2023-08-24 11:52                     ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-24 17:51                       ` T.V Raman
2023-08-24 17:55                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 18:35                           ` T.V Raman
2023-08-25  1:16                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25 11:45                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25  1:14                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25  9:04                         ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-25 18:56                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-26 10:46                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31  2:09                               ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31  8:50                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26  2:04                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-26  5:50                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-26 16:49                               ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-08-26 16:56                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 20:28                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-26 20:58                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-30  8:11                                       ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-27  1:32                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27  8:32                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28  1:32                                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-29  8:29                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-01  1:18                                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-01  6:46                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04  1:32                                               ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04 22:05                                                 ` Juergen Fenn
2023-09-05 11:04                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06  0:58                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 11:29                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:33                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 12:43                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:49                                                       ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 12:54                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 13:04                                                           ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 13:10                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 13:33                                                               ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 15:28                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 13:08                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 13:20                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 15:25                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 16:12                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 16:34                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 11:11                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10  0:22                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09  0:37                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09  9:36                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10  0:22                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09  0:38                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-30  8:11                                   ` Bastien Guerry
2023-09-02  1:50                                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-02  8:19                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-02  8:30                                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-08-27  1:32                                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27  8:35                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28  1:32                                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-28 10:04                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 11:15                                         ` Yuri Khan
2023-08-28 11:21                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31  2:09                                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31  8:53                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04  1:33                                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-30  8:14                                   ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-30  8:32                                     ` Po Lu
2023-08-27  1:33                               ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-26  8:24           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26  8:32           ` Jean Louis
2022-09-26  9:54             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 11:04               ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-27 16:17               ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-30  3:41                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 12:10       ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-26  3:02   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26  5:37     ` Po Lu
2022-09-26  5:44       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-26  6:20       ` Bastien Guerry
2022-09-26 13:58         ` T.V Raman
2022-09-26 16:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26  6:36       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26  6:18     ` Bastien
2022-09-26  6:29       ` Ihor Radchenko

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