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From: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
To: Olivier Dion <olivier.dion@polymtl.ca>
Cc: gwl-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GWL as a build-automation
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2022 10:50:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wndu415p.fsf@elephly.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qw2ycnn.fsf@laura>


Hi Olivier,

> So I'm thinking, one could easily do something like this for a simple
> Guile project:
>
> process compile-guile-source (with dot-scm)
>   package "guile"
>   inputs  : file dot-scm
>   outputs : file : string-replace-substring dot-scm ".scm" ".go"
>   # {
>     guild compile --output {{outputs}} {{inputs}}
>   }
>
>
> And this could also be done for other projects, e.g.:
>
> process compile-c-source (with dot-c)
>   package "gcc-toolchain"
>   inputs  : file dot-c
>   outputs : file : string-replace-substring dot-c ".c" ".o"
>   # {
>     gcc -c -o {{outputs}} {{inputs}}
>   }

It is not entirely surprising to me that the GWL can express this,
because it has really simple abstractions: that of a process and that of
a workflow consisting of processes.

What I do find a little surprising, though, is that there is an apparent
need for declaring processes like this.  The Scheme Shell (scsh), for
example, takes on a similar problem, but the abstraction is different;
less focused on inputs and outputs and instead more geared to
integrating Shell script idioms with plain Scheme.

Personally, I find the GWL too complex for mere process abstractions and
lacking in features that are common in Shell scripts.  Notably, it punts
on improving the syntax of the command; it shrugs and just uses a string
to express the whole command (with a little variable interpolation).

Perhaps there is space for a different tool that takes lessons from the
GWL and Scsh alike, with a focus on command composition and shell
abstractions.  Perhaps that tool already exists and is called Metabash:

  https://github.com/artyom-poptsov/metabash

:)

-- 
Ricardo


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-06  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-05 22:21 GWL as a build-automation Olivier Dion via
2022-06-06  8:50 ` Ricardo Wurmus [this message]
2022-08-18 15:00   ` zimoun

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