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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>,
	Olivier Dion <olivier.dion@polymtl.ca>
Cc: gwl-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GWL as a build-automation
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 17:00:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86edxdbnra.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wndu415p.fsf@elephly.net>

Hi,

I am late to the party. :-)

On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 at 10:50, Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> wrote:

> It is not entirely surprising to me that the GWL can express this,
> because it has really simple abstractions: that of a process and that of
> a workflow consisting of processes.

[...]

> Perhaps there is space for a different tool that takes lessons from the
> GWL and Scsh alike, with a focus on command composition and shell
> abstractions.  Perhaps that tool already exists and is called Metabash:
>
>   https://github.com/artyom-poptsov/metabash

From my understanding, metabash allows to remotely run processes, i.e.,
distribute the pipeline.  Somehow, it could be see as an extension of
Scsh.

However, a pipeline is a linear sequence of processes.  When a workflow
is a DAG of processes.  Therefore, it would appear difficult to me to be
able to express a build-system using only pipelines.

Last, it appears to me expected that GWL could be considered as a
build-system.  A scientific workflow system [1] (as GWL) is just a
specialized implementation to deal with a graph of dependencies.
Software folks speak about the venerable Make as build automation
workflow, while bioinfo folks speak about a specific Python
implementation SnakeMake as data analysis workflow. Just the same
concepts but viewed by different communities. :-)

If I might, an interesting analysis of different strategies for dealing
with the graph of dependencies is done in the paper «Build systems à la
carte» [2].  It presents the various abstractions using Haskell
notations.

1: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_workflow_system>
2: <https://doi.org/10.1017/S0956796820000088>


Cheers,
simon


      reply	other threads:[~2022-08-18 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-05 22:21 GWL as a build-automation Olivier Dion via
2022-06-06  8:50 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-08-18 15:00   ` zimoun [this message]

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