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From: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to reference external program used in shell-scripts?
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2019 20:37:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d40b7d9b-8938-c541-006e-6eef3f773f6d@crazy-compilers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h85tsfdm.fsf@gnu.org>

Am 03.09.19 um 15:01 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> The whole idea of functional software deployment is that it’s stateless:
> you can tell that /gnu/store/…-ansible-1.2.3 will always behave the
> same, no matter what other programs are available on your machine.
>
> Introducing “dynamic binding” (e.g., looking up programs in $PATH) would
> allow for faster security updates in the example you gave, but that
> would be at the expense of that core property I described above.  It
> would be a regression.
>
> I think what we need in this case is (1) fast security updates, which is
> what grafts help us achieve, and (2) documentation that clarifies what
> the deployment model is, such that Mary would know that ‘ansible’ also
> needs to be upgraded in the example above.

I understand this.

Anyway: IMHO missing "dynamic binding" is one of the major drawbacks of
functional deployment, as it requires updating (and esp. downloading)
much more packages compared to a rpm/deb based system.

-- 
Regards
Hartmut Goebel

| Hartmut Goebel          | h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com               |
| www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-08 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-08 13:14 How to reference external program used in shell-scripts? Hartmut Goebel
2019-08-08 14:50 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-08-09  8:03   ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-08-09  8:54     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-03  9:08       ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-09-03 10:27         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-03 13:01         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-03 13:48           ` P via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2019-09-08 19:41             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-08 18:37           ` Hartmut Goebel [this message]
2019-09-08 19:08             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-10  8:42               ` Konrad Hinsen

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