From: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to reference external program used in shell-scripts?
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2019 20:37:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d40b7d9b-8938-c541-006e-6eef3f773f6d@crazy-compilers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h85tsfdm.fsf@gnu.org>
Am 03.09.19 um 15:01 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> The whole idea of functional software deployment is that it’s stateless:
> you can tell that /gnu/store/…-ansible-1.2.3 will always behave the
> same, no matter what other programs are available on your machine.
>
> Introducing “dynamic binding” (e.g., looking up programs in $PATH) would
> allow for faster security updates in the example you gave, but that
> would be at the expense of that core property I described above. It
> would be a regression.
>
> I think what we need in this case is (1) fast security updates, which is
> what grafts help us achieve, and (2) documentation that clarifies what
> the deployment model is, such that Mary would know that ‘ansible’ also
> needs to be upgraded in the example above.
I understand this.
Anyway: IMHO missing "dynamic binding" is one of the major drawbacks of
functional deployment, as it requires updating (and esp. downloading)
much more packages compared to a rpm/deb based system.
--
Regards
Hartmut Goebel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-08 18:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-08 13:14 How to reference external program used in shell-scripts? Hartmut Goebel
2019-08-08 14:50 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-08-09 8:03 ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-08-09 8:54 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-03 9:08 ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-09-03 10:27 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-03 13:01 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-09-03 13:48 ` P via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2019-09-08 19:41 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-08 18:37 ` Hartmut Goebel [this message]
2019-09-08 19:08 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-09-10 8:42 ` Konrad Hinsen
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