all messages for Guix-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: 53676@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#53676] [PATCH 0/5] *** PulseAudio service improvements ***
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:07:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5013471ba6f9e85ecf1ebe0131e7232f915ed0e.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h79c1p86.fsf_-_@gmail.com>

Hi Maxim,

Am Sonntag, dem 06.02.2022 um 01:30 -0500 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
> > > With the proposed 'extra-script-files', I'd argue that appending
> > > something to default.pa should be considered an anti-pattern; as
> > > the new field would be the more natural option to *extend*
> > > 'default.pa' (and having a field to override default.pa is still
> > > useful if you don't like any of the default behavior).
> > I don't think you're making a good case here.  Why do you want
> > appending to default.pa to be an anti-pattern?
> 
> Basically, to keep things as simple as they can be.  I'm expecting
> that extending the default.pa file must be a more common use case
> than hacking it up, justifying the 'extra-script-files' simple entry
> point catered for this use case.  Compare:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (script-file (computed-file "default.pa"
>                             #~(begin
>                                 (copy-file #$(file-apend pulseaudio
> "/etc/default.pa")
>                                            #$output)
>                                 (call-with-port
>                                   (open-file #$output "a")
>                                     (lambda (port)
>                                       (format port "~%\
> set-card-profile alsa_card.pci-0000_01_01.0 output:analog-surround-
> 40+input:analog-mono
> set-default-source alsa_input.pci-0000_01_01.0.analog-mono
> set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_01_01.0.analog-surround-
> 40~%"))))))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> to:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (extra-script-files
>   (list (plain-file "configure-audigy-card"
>           (string-append "\
> set-card-profile alsa_card.pci-0000_01_01.0 output:analog-surround-
> 40+input:analog-mono
> set-default-source alsa_input.pci-0000_01_01.0.analog-mono
> set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_01_01.0.analog-surround-40\n"))))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

to:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(script-file 
  (mixed-text-file "default.pa"
                   ".include"
                   ;; (pulseaudio-configuration-script-file service)
                   (file-append pulseaudio "/etc/default.pa")
                   "
set-card-profile alsa_card.pci-0000_01_01.0
output:analog-surround-40+input:analog-mono
set-default-source alsa_input.pci-0000_01_01.0.analog-mono
set-default-sink
alsa_output.pci-0000_01_01.0.analog-surround-40\n"))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

which yields

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
.include /gnu/store/7xwgz4bavb1i8sfx1lm55hlrr3ngjkdx-pulseaudio-
15.0/etc/default.pa
set-card-profile alsa_card.pci-0000_01_01.0
output:analog-surround-40+input:analog-mono
set-default-source alsa_input.pci-0000_01_01.0.analog-mono
set-default-sink
alsa_output.pci-0000_01_01.0.analog-surround-40
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

> The later seems simpler, especially for someone starting with Guix and
> not very familiar with Guile and G-expressions.
That's because you're (intentionally or otherwise) not making a fair
comparison.  The way I wrote above is the way I intended pulseaudio-
service-type to be used and it's in terms of writing the pulseaudio
configuration not that much harder than what you are proposing.  It'd
be trivial to add a clause to ".include /etc/pulse/default.pa.d"
through the service configuration layer.  Also with pulseaudio < 15.0,
you could – after groking gexps a little – produce 

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
.include /gnu/store/7xwgz4bavb1i8sfx1lm55hlrr3ngjkdx-pulseaudio-
15.0/etc/default.pa
.include /gnu/store/12345678901234567890123456789012-audigy-card.pa
.include /gnu/store/12345678901234567890123456789013-other-stuff.pa
[...]
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

inside that mixed-text-file.  With pulseaudio 15.0, you can also

(define my-pulseaudio-extra-config
  (directory-union ...))

and use it like

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(script-file 
  (mixed-text-file "default.pa"
                   ".include"
                   (file-append pulseaudio "/etc/default.pa")
                   ".include" my-pulseaudio-extra-config))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 

> > I still don't agree that that's a good idea, however. 
> > Particularly, it would lead to including files from an "old distro"
> > that was infected with Guix when that probably wasn't asked for. 
> > If at all enabled, I'd prefer if pulseaudio-service-type magically
> > inserted that snippet for configurations that add files to
> > default.pa.d.
> 
> There are pros and cons; people might be find it handy that a
> Guix-installed pulseaudio also honors their user scripts living under
> /etc/pulse/default.pa.d.  It seems low risk to me; not worth the
> extra complexity in my opinion.
Note that you are introducing extra complexity to create that directory
from pulseaudio-service-type.  In particular, I don't see how your
solution is a notable improvement over mixed-text-file, which to me
seems better suited towards this purpose.

Cheers




  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-06  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-01  4:13 [bug#53676] [PATCH 0/5] *** PulseAudio service improvements *** Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01  4:19 ` [bug#53676] [PATCH 1/5] doc: Fix typo Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01  4:19   ` [bug#53676] [PATCH 2/5] services/sound: Normalize pulseaudio-configuration accessor names Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01 19:48     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-01 20:18       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01 21:29         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-01  4:19   ` [bug#53676] [PATCH 3/5] gnu: pulseaudio: Graft to adjust configuration Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01 19:45     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-01 20:20       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01 21:37         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-02  4:30           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-02 20:43             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-06  6:30               ` [bug#53676] [PATCH 0/5] *** PulseAudio service improvements *** Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-06  9:07                 ` Liliana Marie Prikler [this message]
2022-02-24 16:31                   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-24 20:26                     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-01  4:19   ` [bug#53676] [PATCH 4/5] services: pulseaudio: Add an extra-script-files configuration field Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01 19:56     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-01 20:27       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01 21:26         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-02  3:44           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-02 20:07             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-06  7:25               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-06  8:02                 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-24 16:25                   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01  4:19   ` [bug#53676] [PATCH 5/5] services: pulseaudio: Deploy the configuration files to /etc/pulse Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01 19:43     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-02 22:43       ` Jack Hill
2022-02-07 22:29         ` [bug#53676] [PATCH 0/5] *** PulseAudio service improvements *** Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-08  5:21           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-08 14:25             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-08 19:31               ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-08 14:29             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-08 10:12           ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-08 14:27             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-24 16:36               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-24 14:42         ` [bug#53676] [PATCH 5/5] services: pulseaudio: Deploy the configuration files to /etc/pulse Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-01 19:49   ` [bug#53676] [PATCH 1/5] doc: Fix typo Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-01  4:24 ` [bug#53676] [PATCH 0/5] *** PulseAudio service improvements *** Leo Famulari
2022-02-01 20:15   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-24 16:38 ` [bug#53676] [PATCH v2 1/4] services/sound: Normalize pulseaudio-configuration accessor names Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-24 16:38   ` [bug#53676] [PATCH v2 2/4] gnu: pulseaudio: Graft to adjust configuration Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-24 19:47     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-24 22:00       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-25  5:20         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-26  6:21           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-26 13:19             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-02-26 14:14               ` bug#53676: " Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-24 16:38   ` [bug#53676] [PATCH v2 3/4] services: pulseaudio: Add an extra-script-files configuration field Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-24 18:53     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-24 22:20       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-02-24 16:38   ` [bug#53676] [PATCH v2 4/4] services: pulseaudio: Deploy the configuration files to /etc/pulse Maxim Cournoyer

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=b5013471ba6f9e85ecf1ebe0131e7232f915ed0e.camel@gmail.com \
    --to=liliana.prikler@gmail.com \
    --cc=53676@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.