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From: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>
To: jgart <jgart@dismail.de>
Cc: "Simon Tournier" <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>,
	Kaelyn <kaelyn.alexi@protonmail.com>,
	guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>,
	"Ricardo Wurmus" <rekado@elephly.net>,
	"Julien Lepiller" <julien@lepiller.eu>,
	"Björn Höfling" <bjoern.hoefling@bjoernhoefling.de>,
	"Lars-Dominik Braun" <lars@6xq.net>
Subject: Re: i686 core-updates failure.
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 15:43:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZDgHCnjAy31KDwWo@jurong> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd337ae78d4a9dfafd6fed0d7ad3a348@dismail.de>

Am Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 01:23:15PM +0000 schrieb jgart:
> My thoughts on this are that unless someone has the time to maintain those broken packages we should just remove them and clean up shop a bit.
> Is there a reason to keep around the broken packages?

Well, we can certainly remove a few hopeless, outdated, non-maintained
broken packages. But if we start to remove packages such as wget, and
Java, and Haskell, and much of R, and big chunks of Python, for i686,
this amounts to removing the architecture altogether. It is a decision
we may want to take at some point in time, but we should not do so casually.
And definitely not in this core-updates merge.

One argument for keeping i686 was that problems there were often indicative
of problems in "more exotic" architectures, whereas i686 is relatively easy
to build on x86_64 without specific (often slow) hardware. I am not sure
if this still holds for the 32 bit problems we have seen recently; so there
is a certain argument to make for removing the 32 bit architectures i686
and armhf (x86_64 will soon celebrate its 25th birthday, aarch64 is half
as old; I do not expect much hardware for the corresponding 32 bit
architectures to be around any more).

Andreas



  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-13 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-12 16:11 i686 core-updates failure Kaelyn
2023-04-12 21:05 ` Josselin Poiret
2023-04-12 21:31 ` Andreas Enge
2023-04-13  4:37   ` Kaelyn
2023-04-13 16:25     ` Andreas Enge
2023-04-14  8:28       ` Andreas Enge
2023-04-14 20:05         ` Kaelyn
2023-04-15 11:20           ` python-pytest on core-updates (was: i686 core-updates failure.) Andreas Enge
2023-04-15 11:32             ` python-pytest on core-updates Andreas Enge
2023-04-15 14:08               ` [PATCH core-updates] gnu: python-pytest: Fix failing test_raising_repr Josselin Poiret
2023-04-15 16:14                 ` Kaelyn
2023-04-15 19:59                 ` Andreas Enge
2023-04-15 20:47                   ` Andreas Enge
2023-04-15 20:49             ` python-pytest on core-updates (was: i686 core-updates failure.) Andreas Enge
2023-04-13  9:18 ` i686 core-updates failure Simon Tournier
2023-04-13 13:23 ` jgart
2023-04-13 13:43   ` Andreas Enge [this message]
2023-04-14 15:12     ` Csepp
2023-04-14 16:58       ` Simon Tournier
2023-04-14 17:30         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-04-13 15:31   ` Simon Tournier
2023-04-13 16:21     ` Simon Tournier
2023-04-13 15:47   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-04-13 16:15     ` Greg Hogan
2023-04-13 16:39     ` Simon Tournier
2023-04-13 16:47       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-04-13 20:02       ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2023-04-13 20:15         ` Simon Tournier
2023-04-13 20:45           ` Andreas Enge
2023-04-13 20:57             ` Simon Tournier
2023-04-14  8:25               ` Andreas Enge
2023-04-14  9:45                 ` Simon Tournier
2023-04-14 18:16                 ` Andreas Enge
2023-04-14 18:40                   ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2023-04-15  9:48                     ` ghc in core-updates on i686 Andreas Enge
2023-04-14 10:49           ` i686 core-updates failure Lars-Dominik Braun
2023-04-14 17:00             ` Simon Tournier
2023-04-13 20:33 ` wget (was Re: i686 core-updates failure.) Simon Tournier
2023-04-13 20:37   ` Andreas Enge
2023-04-13 20:43     ` Simon Tournier
2023-04-13 20:49       ` wget Andreas Enge
2023-04-15  0:51   ` wget (was Re: i686 core-updates failure.) Maxim Cournoyer
2023-04-15 10:43     ` Andreas Enge
2023-04-15 16:37       ` Kaelyn
2023-04-15 18:25         ` Kaelyn
2023-04-15 21:00           ` wget on i686 in core-updates Andreas Enge
2023-04-16 17:06           ` wget (was Re: i686 core-updates failure.) Andreas Enge
2023-04-16 17:49             ` Kaelyn

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