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From: "Cook, Malcolm" <MEC@stowers.org>
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" <guix-devel@gnu.org>,
	"myglc2@gmail.com" <myglc2@gmail.com>,
	sirgazil <lizagris@protonmail.com>
Subject: RE: website: say what Guix is at the very top
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:24:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CY4PR2001MB1064DAD480A255FEA88BBEE3BEE50@CY4PR2001MB1064.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87po5ss3xa.fsf@elephly.net>

Ricardo,

Sorry for the MisCaPITaliZAtion  

Sorry if I lost the flow of the discussion.  I entirely trust your understanding of the focus of the discussion.

Cheers,

~malcolm_cook@stowers.org

 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Ricardo Wurmus [mailto:rekado@elephly.net]
 > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 4:20 PM
 > To: Cook, Malcolm <MEC@stowers.org>
 > Cc: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>; myglc2@gmail.com; guix-
 > devel@gnu.org; sirgazil <lizagris@protonmail.com>
 > Subject: Re: website: say what Guix is at the very top
 > 
 > 
 > Hi Malcolm,
 > 
 > > I entirely agree that with the right educational materials you are
 > > going to see have the possibility of appealing to other
 > > groups/cultures/biases.
 > 
 > Yes, I think that does make sense.
 > 
 > > Having a section for each of the 2**3 type of user might be the
 > > perfect compromise.
 > >
 > > Perhaps try to appeal to each audience not with "the first foo to bar"
 > > language, but rather the language of use cases, such as:
 > >
 > > 	As an administrator of a general purpose HPC cluster, I can focus on
 > > 	networking optimizations ("the last mile", I/O, CUDA, performance,
 > > 	permissions, interesting massively parallel etc) rather than keeping
 > > 	up-to-date with every last scientific application.
 > >
 > > 	Guix's garbage collection capabilities remove the guess-work from
 > > 	deleting "old" versions of libraries from my installation!
 > >
 > > 	As an system administrator, solving the dependency hell of end-
 > user
 > > 	applications should not be my problem!  Guix puts this problem
 > where
 > > 	it belongs - in the hand of application specialists.
 > >
 > > 	As an sysadmin administrator, with guix I am removed from the
 > > 	politics of when to update an application!
 > >
 > > 	Documenting what applications are installed used to be a separate
 > > 	problem from that of installing them.   With GUIX, performing the
 > > 	installation makes them appear in my software catalog.  No more
 > > 	worries about inconsistencies!
 > 
 > (It’s “Guix”, not “GUIX”.  People at work also always write “GUIX” and I
 > can’t figure out why…  Maybe we should come up with a backronym to
 > make
 > it a valid alternative spelling :))
 > 
 > > 	As a user of advanced scientific applications, I am now in a position
 > to deploy which applications I need as I see fit, and have the upstream
 > community support to share the tooling.
 > >
 > > 	As a bioinformatics developer, the same tools I use to install
 > application environments can be used to deploy advanced workflows with
 > the same level of confidence.
 > >
 > > Does this strike a sweet spot?
 > 
 > I like these testimonial style descriptions, and I think it makes sense
 > to add separate sections for different archetypical users.  (We already
 > have a related section entitled “GuixSD and GNU Guix in your field”,
 > which I found intriguing, but it only links to blog posts with certain
 > tags.)
 > 
 > However, I think that this is tangential to the question of whether to
 > move the GuixSD description and intro to a separate page.  If we added
 > those sections they’d be only about Guix, not about GuixSD, no?
 > 
 > --
 > Ricardo
 > 
 > GPG: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6  2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC
 > https://elephly.net
 > 


  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-29 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-17 17:30 website: say what Guix is at the very top Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-17 18:08 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-01-19  8:04   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-21 17:11     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-01-19  6:09 ` George myglc2 Clemmer
2018-01-19  7:42   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-19 13:32     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-19 20:35       ` myglc2
2018-01-21 14:47       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-24  5:54         ` myglc2
2018-01-24 14:24           ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-01-24 14:22         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-26 23:03           ` myglc2
2018-01-27 16:14             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-27 18:20               ` myglc2
2018-01-27 21:59                 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-28 16:24                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-29  4:14                   ` myglc2
2018-01-29  7:37                     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-29 21:31                       ` Cook, Malcolm
2018-01-29 22:20                         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-29 22:24                           ` Cook, Malcolm [this message]
2018-01-30  1:03                             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-30 22:17                               ` myglc2
2018-01-30  1:43                             ` George myglc2 Clemmer
2018-01-30  2:56                               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-30  7:31                           ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-30  7:46                           ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-31 16:58                       ` myglc2
2018-01-31 17:27                         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-31 18:11                           ` myglc2
2018-01-31 18:13                             ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-28  0:35               ` Chris Marusich
2018-01-22  7:04 ` Chris Marusich
2018-01-22 16:43   ` myglc2
2018-03-16  7:14     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-24 14:19   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-28  0:33     ` Chris Marusich
2018-01-28 21:58       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-29  2:08         ` Chris Marusich

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