From: Eric Bavier <bavier@cray.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr>,
"Ricardo Wurmus" <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: "35666@debbugs.gnu.org" <35666@debbugs.gnu.org>,
"pgarlick@tourbillion-technology.com"
<pgarlick@tourbillion-technology.com>
Subject: [bug#35666] [PATCH 0/2] Build a thread-safe hdf5 library
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 15:09:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CY4PR1101MB2325973B0EC24AB6A7371D9AB70C0@CY4PR1101MB2325.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d0kq1mr2.fsf@gnu.org>
I think this should be fine, though I've not heard of anyone who has relied on this feature. The "unsupported" part here is that the posix lock used for thread-safety is not hoisted into the higher-level API calls. So if your colleague is using the C++ interface and expecting thread-safety, they are out of luck. So the disclaimer is that only the low-level C interface gains thread-safety, and the rest are no better.
Eric Bavier, Scientific Libraries, Cray Inc.
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From: Ludovic Courtès <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 08:07
To: Ricardo Wurmus
Cc: Eric Bavier; pgarlick@tourbillion-technology.com; 35666@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [bug#35666] [PATCH 0/2] Build a thread-safe hdf5 library
Hi!
Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:
> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
[…]
>> It also tells you that, if you insist, you can go ahead and pass
>> ‘--enable-unsupported’, but you’re on your own.
>>
>> We found that Debian chose to pass ‘--enable-unsupported’, and indeed
>> that seems to be saner than providing a variant that does very little,
>> but does it in a thread-safe way.
>
> What other effects does “--enable-unsupported” have? I see that in
> Fedora “--enable-threadsafe” was removed in 2008 because it’s
> “incompatible with --enable-cxx and --enable-fortran”.
“--enable-unsupported” allows you to force a build that combines C++,
Fortran, and thread-safety. If you don’t pass that flag, you have to
choose between thread-safety and C++/Fortran¹. A tough choice!
> Instead they seem to be building different flavours: one with
> --enable-fortran, another with --enable-cxx, yet another with MPI and
> --enable-parallel.
Problem is, my colleagues have code that expects both C++ and
thread-safety (as crazy as it might seem). They were using the Debian
package until now and hadn’t realized about this.
> Do we have contact to the hdf5 developers to ask what the implications
> of “enable-unsupported” are?
I think it’s a warranty-void kind of flag: by passing it, the user
asserts they understand they’re using a configuration not “officially
supported” by the HDF Group, meaning that if it’s buggy, we’re on our
own.
Thoughts?
Ludo’.
¹ You would think it’s an April fool’s day prank, but it’s not! We’re
in May, at least in my timezone.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-10 15:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-10 9:56 [bug#35666] [PATCH 0/2] Build a thread-safe hdf5 library Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-10 10:05 ` [bug#35666] [PATCH 1/2] gnu: hdf5: Build a thread-safe library Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-10 10:05 ` [bug#35666] [PATCH 2/2] gnu: hdf5: Add dependency on Perl Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-10 11:52 ` [bug#35666] [PATCH 0/2] Build a thread-safe hdf5 library Ricardo Wurmus
2019-05-10 13:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-10 15:09 ` Eric Bavier [this message]
2019-05-14 7:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-14 14:40 ` Eric Bavier
2019-05-10 15:27 ` Paul Garlick
2019-05-14 10:21 ` bug#35666: " Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-14 12:02 ` [bug#35666] " Ricardo Wurmus
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