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From: Begley Brothers Inc <begleybrothers@gmail.com>
To: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Replacing Yocto with Guix kernel image builds: best practices
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 07:23:12 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJsH2Qkb5pd8nNVKouC10+Ngrzox9kMO4KPpsaA34H7CyXXu2A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200517132043.GE31833@E5400>

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On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 11:21 PM Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
wrote:

> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 09:41:00PM +1000, Begley Brothers Inc wrote:
> > Hi,
> > We are now looking to build Linux kernels using Guix instead of Yocto.
> We
> > can't see any reason why the builds wouldn't be linux-libre. Ideally we'd
> > like our effort to be accepted by upstream guix.
> >
> > However, being new to Guix we are still coming grips with the best
> > practice(s) for what we would like to do.
> > We've looked at Guix's linux.scm, and
> > Efraim Flashner's post[1] is our primary reference - many thanks Efraim.
>
> I'd like to embarrassingly mention that I never actually booted any of
> my custom kernels. My machine was a bit too slow to regularly compile
> for some guess-and-check.
>

No worries. Something is better than nothing and that was very useful
outline of possible alternatives.

<snip>

> 1) We did wonder if channels[2] were the way to go with each kernel x.y.z
> > in its own branch and config files therein. Could anyone point us to
> > packages that setup and use package specific channels?
> > 2) Should we be aiming to provide a single package with multiple
> parameters
> > or is it better to provide a package for each kernel x.y.z, or some other
> > partitioning. We'd likely want to script the package definition then -
> > correct?
>
> I would probably start with one package each and then see how they could
> be made to inherit from one another or grouped together. The way the
> current make-linux-libre procedures work has grown quite a bit but they
> should still mostly work as a starting point to add/remove bits for
> customizing for your needs.
>
> I don't think I'd go with different branches. If you keep everything in
> one branch then it's easier to deduplicate work between the different
> variants.
>

That was our thought too.
We're just wondering how best to get that branch content down to the users
machine without them having to do anything.

Thanks again.

> Appreciate any comments suggestions or tips.
> >
> > [1]:
> >
> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/creating-and-using-a-custom-linux-kernel-on-guix-system/
> > [2]: https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/guix.html#Channels
> >
> > --
> > Kind Regards
> >
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> >
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-17 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-17 11:41 Replacing Yocto with Guix kernel image builds: best practices Trevor Lee
2020-05-17 13:08 ` [offtopic] Funny footer (was: Replacing Yocto with Guix kernel image builds: best practices) Dmitry Alexandrov
2020-05-17 16:59   ` Josh Marshall
2020-05-17 21:03     ` Trevor Lee
2020-05-17 13:20 ` Replacing Yocto with Guix kernel image builds: best practices Efraim Flashner
2020-05-17 21:23   ` Begley Brothers Inc [this message]
2020-05-18  6:35     ` Efraim Flashner
2020-05-19  6:28       ` Begley Brothers Inc

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