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From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu>
To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de>
Cc: 50960@debbugs.gnu.org, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Subject: [bug#50960] [EXT] Re: [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment'
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 07:17:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ=Rwfb7fSEuWYxnnPE_miqGF5_O_d8qJdi3XdmwSQsFE=8jXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211007105236.xzkq5tij3g3tcdob@pelzflorian.localdomain>

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 6:52 AM pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
<pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> wrote:
>
> I’m not a direnv user and frankly don’t really understand the gain
> from loading by default the guix.scm file nor manifest.scm.
>
> My fear is accidentally running code, possibly malicious, possibly
> just a backup script one happened to call guix.scm.  In German we have
> the word DAU for “dumbest assumable user”.  Guix without shell is
> DAU-prove.

I don't think your fear should outweigh the immense user friendliness
of having some established conventions to ease development.  Every
mainstream developer tool I use in the professional word has
conventions like this, and the result is that it is quick and easy to
jump into a new project and get the software you need to be
productive.  Guix needs to embrace this kind of usability if it hopes
to offer a real alternative to these other tools.  'guix shell' with
no other arguments should "just work" in the context of whatever
project I am in.

- Dave




  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-07 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-02 10:21 [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 01/10] packages: Add 'package-development-inputs' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 02/10] profiles: Add 'package->development-manifest' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 03/10] DRAFT Add 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 04/10] DRAFT shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 11:52     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-02 13:43       ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-05  7:50         ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-08  7:44           ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 14:15     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 04/10] DRAFT shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Maxime Devos
2021-10-04  8:07       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-05  7:51     ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 05/10] environment: Add tests for '--profile' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 06/10] environment: Skip derivation computation when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 11:39     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-02 13:46       ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 07/10] environment: Do not connect to the daemon when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 08/10] environment: Autoload some modules Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 09/10] cache: Gracefully handle non-existent cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 13:28     ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 10:22   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 10/10] shell: Maintain a profile cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 13:43     ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 14:12       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 14:47         ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-04  8:19           ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 14:20             ` zimoun
2021-10-04 15:58             ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-08  7:37               ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 13:52     ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 14:14       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 14:22         ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-04  8:08           ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 10:50 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Jelle Licht
2021-10-02 13:52   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 12:10 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-02 13:40   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-02 15:08     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-04  8:22       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04  9:23         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-04 16:50         ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-02 13:03 ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2021-10-02 14:00 ` [bug#50960] ‘guix shell’ shebangs Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-03 22:50   ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2021-10-02 23:57 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' Vagrant Cascadian
2021-10-03  8:36   ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2021-10-04  8:34   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 17:12     ` Maxime Devos
2021-10-04  6:56 ` zimoun
2021-10-04  8:39   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 10:40     ` zimoun
2021-10-04 12:23       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-04 13:42         ` zimoun
2021-10-04 17:38 ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-08  7:43   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-08 16:16     ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-09 13:38       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11  0:29         ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-04 21:29 ` [bug#50960] [EXT] " Thompson, David
2021-10-07  9:26   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-07 10:52     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-07 11:17       ` Thompson, David [this message]
2021-10-07 12:01         ` [bug#50960] [EXT] " pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-08 14:24         ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2021-10-11  9:13     ` zimoun
2021-10-06  8:12 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-10-07  8:34   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-07  9:15     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-08 15:45     ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-10-09  7:45       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-10-11  8:32       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-09  8:07 ` Stefan
2021-10-11 21:37 ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 00/11] 'guix shell' strikes again Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:37   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 01/11] packages: Add 'package-development-inputs' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12  6:39     ` zimoun
2021-10-12  9:54       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12 11:52         ` zimoun
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 02/11] profiles: Add 'package->development-manifest' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12  6:43     ` zimoun
2021-10-12  9:27       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 03/11] Add 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-13 16:51     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 04/11] DRAFT shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 05/11] DRAFT shell: Honor in ~/.config/guix/shell-authorized-directories Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 06/11] environment: Add tests for '--profile' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 07/11] environment: Skip derivation computation when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 08/11] environment: Do not connect to the daemon " Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 09/11] environment: Autoload some modules Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 10/11] cache: Gracefully handle non-existent cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-11 21:38   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 11/11] shell: Maintain a profile cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-12  8:53   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v2 00/11] 'guix shell' strikes again pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-12  8:57     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2021-10-12  9:55       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52   ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 00/10] Adding 'guix shell': last call! Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 01/10] packages: Add 'package-development-inputs' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 02/10] profiles: Add 'package->development-manifest' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 03/10] Add 'guix shell' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 04/10] shell: By default load the local 'guix.scm' or 'manifest.scm' file Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 05/10] environment: Add tests for '--profile' Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 06/10] environment: Skip derivation computation when '--profile' is used Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 07/10] environment: Do not connect to the daemon " Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 08/10] environment: Autoload some modules Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 09/10] cache: Gracefully handle non-existent cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-18 19:52     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 10/10] shell: Maintain a profile cache Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-19  8:43     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH v3 00/10] Adding 'guix shell': last call! zimoun
2021-10-25 13:41     ` [bug#50960] [PATCH 00/10] Add 'guix shell' to subsume 'guix environment' zimoun
2021-10-25 18:19       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-25 19:45         ` zimoun
2021-10-25 18:25     ` Ludovic Courtès

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