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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Inverted index to accelerate guix package search
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:54:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ3okZ2by92MCETq6ZnK29EcYdVsZGhOS87JV1Nn3H94+8huAg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cu74kwxe0jv.fsf@systemreboot.net>

Hi,

On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 06:44, Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net> wrote:

> > Well, the issue is 'scoring' a query.
>
> I think the issue of whether to use an inverted index is orthogonal to
> the quest to improve the relevance of the search results. Implementing
> tf-idf like you suggested could greatly benefit from having fast
> searches.

I think it is not so orthogonal. In general, a fast and good system is
a combination of relevant scoring adapted to the good data structure,
IMHO.


However, I agree that adding an inverted index will improve the
current situation of "guix search" -- keeping the current scoring
function -- and ease the end-user experience.


> Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> writes:
>
> > By the way, what about using Xapian in Guix?
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xapian
> >
> > If it's relevant, maybe we can follow up with a discussion in a new
> > thread.
>
> I feel xapian is too much work (considering that we don't yet have guile
> bindings) compared to our own simple implementation of an inverted
> index. But, of course, I am biased since I wrote the inverted index
> code! :-)

It depends on how long run we are talking. :-)
Xapian avoids to reinvent the wheel. ;-)

> But, on a more serious note, if we move to xapian, we will not be able
> to support regular expression based search queries that we support
> today.

I am not convinced...

> On the question of whether xapian is too heavy, I think we should make
> it an optional dependency of Guix so that it remains possible to build
> and use a more minimalistic Guix for those interested in such things.

Guix comes with SQLite and it is ok.
The question is: how Xapian is minimalist. :-)
(need some investigation)


All the best,
simon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-01-15 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-12 15:03 Inverted index to accelerate guix package search Arun Isaac
2020-01-13  8:48 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-13 15:08   ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-13 17:54     ` zimoun
2020-01-14  3:53       ` Bengt Richter
2020-01-14 14:21       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 15:27         ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2020-01-14 20:55           ` zimoun
2020-01-14 21:41             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 21:59               ` zimoun
2020-01-15  9:12                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 14:25                   ` zimoun
2020-01-15 11:53             ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2020-01-15 14:49               ` zimoun
2020-01-16 19:06         ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-16 20:08           ` zimoun
2020-01-17 17:13           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-17 19:11             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-18 20:31               ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-15  5:44       ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-15  9:06         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 12:00           ` zimoun
2020-01-15 13:41             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 11:54         ` zimoun [this message]
2020-01-15 21:03         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-15 21:19           ` zimoun
2020-01-16 14:44           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-16 15:04             ` zimoun
2020-01-16 19:11               ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-16 19:53                 ` zimoun
2020-01-17 19:29                   ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-20 19:14                     ` zimoun
2020-01-20 20:42                       ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-21 10:46                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-23 20:49                       ` Arun Isaac

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