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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: 29046@debbugs.gnu.org, Rutger Helling <rhelling@mykolab.com>
Subject: [bug#29046] [PATCH] gnu: linux-libre: Change URL to HTTPS.
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 22:12:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y3nhyerk.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tvy5gb9n.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Tue, 07 Nov 2017 14:05:24 -0500")

Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:

> Is an active attack needed to determine which file we are downloading
> from linux-libre.fsfla.org?  I think not.  The IP address of that host
> reverse resolves to "linux-libre.fsfla.org", which makes it obvious.
> The title of the paper Ludovic cited above makes the point:
>
>   I Know Why You Went to the Clinic
>
> or in this case:
>
>   I know why you downloaded 97 megabytes from linux-libre.fsfla.org.
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, using TLS does *not* foil passive surveillance for
> source downloads in the overwhelming majority of cases, and especially
> not in this case.  Even at web sites that serve a larger variety of
> software, determining what was downloaded by the amount of data
> transferred does not require an active attack.

You’re right, though it’s already more work for github.com (11% of our
packages) or PyPI (17% of our packages).

This discussion is also interesting in the context of
<https://bugs.gnu.org/28659>, where one of the options discussed would
be to favor content-addressable mirrors over upstream sites.

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-07 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-28 21:15 [bug#29046] [PATCH] gnu: linux-libre: Update to 4.13.10 and change URL to HTTPS Rutger Helling
2017-10-30  7:06 ` [bug#29046] [PATCH] gnu: linux-libre: Change " Rutger Helling
2017-10-30 14:44   ` Leo Famulari
2017-10-30 19:14     ` Mark H Weaver
2017-10-31  2:22       ` Leo Famulari
2017-11-07 16:26         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-11-07 19:05           ` Mark H Weaver
2017-11-07 21:12             ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2017-11-12 20:48             ` bug#29046: " Leo Famulari

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