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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: 54997@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#54997] [PATCH 00/12] Add "least authority" program wrapper
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 22:22:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y1zrk31p.fsf_-_@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22c9f92c9855e36b23ec70ba53fc6cf85c918527.camel@telenet.be> (Maxime Devos's message of "Fri, 22 Apr 2022 17:02:03 +0200")

Hi Maxime,

Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès schreef op zo 17-04-2022 om 23:01 [+0200]:
>> Hello Guix!
>> 
>> So we have this fancy ‘make-forkexec-constructor/container’ thing
>> to spawn Shepherd services in a container:
>> 
>>   https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2017/running-system-services-in-containers/
>> 
>> It’s nice, but it doesn’t compose.  What if you want an inetd-style
>> service *and* have it run in a container?  We certainly don’t want to
>> end up defining ‘make-inetd-constructor/container’ and so on.
>
> Currently, it doesn't compose, but can it be made composable?
> More concretely, maybe there could be a set of ‘process procedures’
> implementable by record types:
>
>   ;; Inspired by <https://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/subprocess.html>,
>   ;; with some differences
>   (define (subprocess-start/separate process) ...)  ; run it in a separate process
>   (define (subprocess-start/replace process) ...) ; run it with 'exec'
>   (define (subprocess-kill process) ...)
>   (define (subprocess-wait process) ...)
>   (define (subprocess-status process) ...)
>
>   ;; Basic process constructor, doesn't do containers
>   (define (command-process ...) ...)
>
>   ;; Container
>   (define (contain inner #:key container-stuff ...)
>     subprocess-start/separate: (run-container ... (lambda () (subprocess-start/replace inner)))
>     other procedures ...
>     return the record)
>
> Then make-inetd-constructor could be changed to accept a lambda producing
> 'subprocess' records.  By passing it a subprocess wrapped by 'contain', it would
> automatically support container things:
>
> (define (make-inetd-constructor/container-command command* ...)
>   (make-inetd-constructor (lambda () (contain (command-process comand*))) ...))

A (sub)process abstraction could be useful, indeed.

But like you write, we’d need further changes in shepherd itself, which
makes it less appealing IMO.  I like that the “POLA wrapper” allows us
to deal with this aspect in a fairly orthogonal fashion.

Thanks!

Ludo’.




      reply	other threads:[~2022-04-26 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-17 21:01 [bug#54997] [PATCH 00/12] Add "least authority" program wrapper Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-17 21:04 ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 01/12] gexp: Add 'references-file' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 02/12] file-systems: Avoid load-time warnings when attempting to load (guix store) Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 03/12] linux-container: 'call-with-container' relays SIGTERM and SIGINT Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 04/12] Add (guix least-authority) Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-18  9:15     ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-19 22:04       ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 00/12] Add "least authority" program wrapper Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-18  9:18     ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 04/12] Add (guix least-authority) Maxime Devos
2022-04-19 22:05       ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 00/12] Add "least authority" program wrapper Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-22 20:10     ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 04/12] Add (guix least-authority) Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2022-04-26 20:30       ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 00/12] Add "least authority" program wrapper Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-29  3:43         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2022-04-26 20:48       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56         ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 00/15] " Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 01/15] gexp: Add 'references-file' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 02/15] file-systems: Avoid load-time warnings when attempting to load (guix store) Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 03/15] linux-container: 'call-with-container' relays SIGTERM and SIGINT Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 04/15] linux-container: Ensure signal-handling asyncs get a chance to run Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 05/15] linux-container: Add #:child-is-pid1? parameter to 'call-with-container' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 06/15] Add (guix least-authority) Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 07/15] services: dicod: Rewrite using 'least-authority-wrapper' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 08/15] services: dicod: Use 'make-inetd-constructor' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 09/15] services: bitlbee: " Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 10/15] services: ipfs: Adjust for Shepherd 0.9 Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 11/15] services: ipfs: Use 'least-authority-wrapper' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 12/15] services: wesnothd: Grant write access to /var/run/wesnothd Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 13/15] services: wesnothd: Use 'least-authority-wrapper' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 14/15] services: quassel: " Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-27 16:56           ` [bug#54997] [PATCH v2 15/15] services: opendht: " Ludovic Courtès
2022-05-01 20:16           ` bug#54997: [PATCH 00/12] Add "least authority" program wrapper Ludovic Courtès
2022-05-02  4:25             ` [bug#54997] " Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 05/12] services: dicod: Rewrite using 'least-authority-wrapper' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 06/12] services: dicod: Use 'make-inetd-constructor' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 07/12] services: bitlbee: " Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-18  9:13     ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-19 22:03       ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 00/12] Add "least authority" program wrapper Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 08/12] services: ipfs: Adjust for Shepherd 0.9 Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 09/12] services: ipfs: Use 'least-authority-wrapper' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-18  9:08     ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-19 22:02       ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 00/12] Add "least authority" program wrapper Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-22 14:39         ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-27 22:01           ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-28 11:29             ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-28 19:25               ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-28 19:52                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 10/12] services: wesnothd: Grant write access to /var/run/wesnothd Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 11/12] services: wesnothd: Use 'least-authority-wrapper' Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-17 21:04   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 12/12] services: quassel: " Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-18  9:12     ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-19 21:59       ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 00/12] Add "least authority" program wrapper Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-22  5:01   ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 01/12] gexp: Add 'references-file' Thiago Jung Bauermann via Guix-patches via
2022-04-26 20:17     ` [bug#54997] [PATCH 00/12] Add "least authority" program wrapper Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-22 15:02 ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-26 20:22   ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]

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