From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: auto-instantiate services with a default value
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 22:56:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tvvuw6aa.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y3l7wgf5.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Tue, 09 Jan 2018 10:05:34 +0100")
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ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
> Hello Guix!
>
> Currently on GuixSD, users have to explicitly specify all the services
> they need, recursively. For instance, if you add:
>
> (service rottlog-service-type)
>
> to your ‘services’ field, you also need to add:
>
> (service mcron-service-type)
>
> because the former happens to require the latter. If you don’t do that,
> you get an error message (see ‘fold-services’ in (gnu services)), and
> then you go back to your config and add that line.
>
> This was intentional, but it’s annoying, especially when considering
> higher-level, complex services—imagine a MediaGoblin service: you
> wouldn’t want to manually specify a dozen services that, to you, are an
> implementation detail you’d rather ignore.
>
> We discussed some time ago the possibility to automatically instantiate
> services. Now that service types have default value, I think it’s a
> viable approach: if a service is required, and *if* it provides a
> default value, then we can automatically instantiate it.
>
> So in the example above, you’d just specify ‘rottlog-service-type’ and
> an ‘mcron-service-type’ would be automatically added if it’s not already
> there.
>
> How does that sound?
This sounds great to me! It would be quite convenient.
What will we do in the situation where two services S and T both require
a service U, but S and T require different configurations of U? In this
case, it's clear that either S or T (or both) requires a non-default
configuration of U, so maybe this is outside the scope of what you've
proposed.
Is it intended that if I wish to modify a service's dependent services,
I would continue to do so via the usual methods (e.g., modify-services)?
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Chris
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-10 6:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-09 9:05 Proposal: auto-instantiate services with a default value Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-09 10:16 ` ng0
2018-01-09 10:59 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-01-09 12:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-09 13:42 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-01-09 20:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-10 6:56 ` Chris Marusich [this message]
2018-01-20 23:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
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