From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Brett Gilio <brettg@posteo.net>
Cc: 38605@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#38605] [WIP MLton 0/1] Add MLton
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 11:02:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tv60k2pw.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y2vd43uo.fsf@posteo.net> (Brett Gilio's message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2019 16:32:31 -0600")
Hi Brett,
Brett Gilio <brettg@posteo.net> skribis:
> It's a little off of the subject at hand, but to my knowledge (as
> provided by this issue: https://github.com/MLton/mlton/issues/350) I am
> going to cherry pick a few things of note.
Thanks for discussing it with upstream! Your reply summarizes current
“best practices” pretty well: for Rust, for Guile (which contains an
interpreter in C), for Common Lisp (GNU clisp is written in C), for C
(MesCC), etc.
> I wonder if the best long-term solution for melding Guix and the ML
> language community is to try and write an ML compiler in a language like
> C or Scheme based on a reduced-sized specification of the language.
I vaguely recall reading about an SML implementation in Scheme. All I
could find is a mention of it in
<https://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/ultra/skalpel/html/sml.html>.
> The reason I say all this is because I would really love to see the
> philosophies of ML/Formal Methods/Proof and the deterministic/functional
> philosophy of Guix work together. They seem naturally synergistic, but
> there seems be a difference in history here that is making this quite
> antagonistic.
>
> I'd really like to spark some insight and discussion here because it
> would be amazing if the formal methods community (like Coq, seL4,
> HOL/Isabelle, etc.) could really begin to benefit from the Guix model.
I agree that the two should be synergistic. Eventually, all this comes
down to how to design a programming language or its implementation in a
way that allows is to be built incrementally from “nothing”, or from a
different language (something janneke and I discussed at the R-B
summit). This sounds very much like programming language research
question.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-16 10:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-14 3:58 [bug#38605] [WIP MLton 0/1] Add MLton Brett Gilio
2019-12-14 3:59 ` [bug#38605] [WIP MLton 1/1] gnu: Add mlton Brett Gilio
2020-09-14 17:36 ` zimoun
2022-04-12 10:21 ` [bug#38605] [WIP MLton 0/1] Add MLton zimoun
2022-05-04 11:58 ` bug#38605: " zimoun
2019-12-14 17:58 ` [bug#38605] " Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-15 22:32 ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-16 10:02 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2019-12-15 1:59 ` zimoun
2019-12-16 21:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-17 2:20 ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-17 16:42 ` zimoun
2019-12-18 14:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-21 4:56 ` Brett Gilio
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