From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
Cc: Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com>, myglc2@gmail.com, help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs in multiple profiles
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 23:45:31 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sgndcz38.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mudpm5nt.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:21:58 +0200")
Hello Pierre,
Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> writes:
> Looking good!
>
> I just tried to install Emacs to a dummy profile with your patch.
> Here is the result (with ":" replaced by line breaks):
>
> ...
> export EMACSLOADPATH=\
> "${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/site-lisp/
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp/
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//calc
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//calendar
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//cedet
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//cedet/ede
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//cedet/semantic
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//cedet/semantic/analyze
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//cedet/semantic/bovine
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//cedet/semantic/decorate
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//cedet/semantic/symref
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//cedet/semantic/wisent
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//cedet/srecode
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//emacs-lisp
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//emulation
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//erc
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//eshell
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//gnus
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//image
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//international
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//language
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//leim
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//leim/ja-dic
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//leim/quail
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//mail
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//mh-e
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//net
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//nxml
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//obsolete
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//org
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//play
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//progmodes
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//term
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//textmodes
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//url
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/26.3/lisp//vc
> ${GUIX_PROFILE:-/gnu/store/g5371rkr7k5j6n5gmg0a8bhspsdfnjvy-profile}/share/emacs/site-lisp/${EMACSLOADPATH:+:}$EMACSLOADPATH"
> export ...
>
>
> Then I did
>
> /home/ambrevar/projects/guix/pre-inst-env guix environment --ad-hoc emacs emacs-expand-region -- emacs -q
>
>
> And I get Emacs with expand region functions, but since GUIX_ENVIRONMENT
> is still effective, it's unclear what loads it.
I'm not sure I understand correctly, but perhaps you'd want to use
--pure, so to make sure nothing from your current environment
interferes?
But that's still leave site-start.el to look into ~/.guix-profile, I
believe. You could also try with emacs-minimal, which doesn't have any
of the emacs-guix additions.
> So it seems to be the right approach, let's keep testing!
>
> With regard to the "cleanups" you mentioned:
>
>> Various cleanups could be undertaken in both Guix (no longer need the
>> set-emacsloadpath phase in the emacs-build-system) and Emacs-Guix (no
>> need for custom logic looking into ~/.guix-profile) and perhaps other
>> places should this get merged.
>
> Shall we keep guix-emacs.el (and site-start.el) at all?
>
> What guix-emacs.el does if I'm not mistaken:
>
> - Find autoloads: Would we still need this then? I'm not sure. If
> not, then it would be great to remove this because finding-autoload
> linearly increases Emacs loading time.
>
> - Find packages in GUIX_ENVIRONMENT: I suppose we don't need this since
> EMACSLOADPATH should be in the `guix environment' as well.
>
> - Find packages in "/run/current-system/profile": The approach used by
> other programs at the moment is to do this in /etc/profile, e.g.
>
> export MANPATH=\
> $HOME/.guix-profile/share/man\
> :/run/current-system/profile/share/man
>
> Seems to me that we can remove guix-emacs.el and site-start.el.
>
> Cheers!
I also think we can do without these! I'm rebuilding Emacs with a new
patch; will share for testing it if works okay.
Alex: I think you'll want to adapt/remove the code in Emacs-Guix which
is used to locate the Emacs libraries installed using Guix, since they'd
now be available directly to Emacs (through EMACSLOADPATH). Of course,
to be done only after discussed patch is merged :-).
Thanks for testing!
Maxim
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-28 3:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-22 16:47 Emacs in multiple profiles Konrad Hinsen
2018-03-22 21:21 ` Alex Kost
2018-03-23 7:57 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-03-23 17:25 ` Alex Kost
2018-03-24 12:14 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-03-24 16:07 ` Alex Kost
2018-03-26 8:24 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-03-27 15:38 ` Alex Kost
2018-04-18 19:49 ` myglc2
2018-05-05 16:01 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-10-16 19:54 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-17 15:56 ` George Clemmer
2019-10-18 8:42 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-18 17:13 ` George Clemmer
2019-10-19 8:57 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-19 8:53 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-19 19:35 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-10-19 20:19 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-25 3:05 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-10-25 11:21 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-28 3:45 ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2019-10-28 7:49 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-28 12:46 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-10-29 1:25 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-10-29 10:44 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-31 5:29 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-10-31 12:29 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-01 4:25 ` [bug#38015] " Maxim Cournoyer
2019-11-01 4:25 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-11-01 19:06 ` [bug#38015] " Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-01 19:06 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-02 1:12 ` [bug#38015] " Maxim Cournoyer
2019-11-02 1:12 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-11-02 9:41 ` [bug#38015] " Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-02 9:41 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-17 23:10 ` Emacs in server mode using a Shepherd user service (Was: Re: Emacs in multiple profiles) Chris Marusich
2019-11-18 20:55 ` brettg
2019-11-19 21:57 ` Emacs in server mode using a Shepherd user service Maxim Cournoyer
2019-11-19 21:58 ` brettg
2019-11-19 22:03 ` brettg
2019-11-12 5:14 ` [bug#38015] Emacs in multiple profiles Chris Marusich
2019-11-12 5:14 ` Chris Marusich
2019-11-12 7:16 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-12 7:16 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-13 7:18 ` Chris Marusich
2019-11-13 7:18 ` Chris Marusich
2019-11-13 11:08 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-13 11:08 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-18 5:50 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-11-18 5:50 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-10-20 13:58 ` Alex Kost
2019-10-20 16:17 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-04-20 20:52 ` Ricardo Wurmus
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