From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Building Guile with ‘-j1’?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 14:35:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sg6lnq0j.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87im7qfhfe.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Thu, 21 Jan 2021 10:17:25 -0500")
Hi Maxim,
Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:
> Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> writes:
>
>> Hi Ludovic,
>>
>> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>>> As the saying goes, “the cobbler’s children go barefoot”. Guile/Guix
>>> are no exception since Guile builds are non-reproducible, despite work
>>> done a few years ago:
>>>
>>> https://issues.guix.gnu.org/20272
>>>
>>> Until it’s fixed in Guile proper, what do you think of building Guile
>>> 2.0/2.2/3.0 with #:parallel-build? #f ? We could do that in
>>> ‘core-updates’ now.
I pushed that as 2ea52f90141974fb5d88b8c6b1785817c4203da4.
> I'm not too found of it. It'll make the already slow Guile build much
> slower, making the lower strata of core-updates packages more painfully
> slow to build and test.
Yes, it’s suboptimal. OTOH, as I wrote, I think the slowdown is not as
important as one might think: a large fraction of the Guile build time
goes into building ice-9/eval.scm and the first few files, which is
already sequential (enforced by Guile’s makefile).
> It'll also enable us to overlook the issue for years to come
> (similarly to the fact that the testsuite of the Guix package itself
> hasn't been run in parallel for the last 6 years or so :-)).
It remains and bug to fix in Guile, no doubt. But we also have to be
pragmatic IMO.
> It also won't fix the issue of Guix modules compiled in parallel
> suffering from the same problem.
Definitely.
> So I'd keep it as it is for now, as a reminder that this is a serious
> problem in need of a fix.
There’s also the problem that a fix in Guile takes time to deploy
(basically a ‘core-updates’ cycle). It’s not the first time we work
around a Guile bug until it’s fixed in Guile proper.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-28 13:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-20 8:41 Building Guile with ‘-j1’? Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-20 10:19 ` zimoun
2021-01-20 10:36 ` Gábor Boskovits
2021-01-20 12:16 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-20 21:01 ` Mark H Weaver
2021-01-21 15:17 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-01-28 13:35 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2021-01-28 18:43 ` Maxim Cournoyer
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