From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Dave Love <fx@gnu.org>
Cc: 27850-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#27850: gnu: mpi: openmpi: Don't enable thread-multiple
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:17:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o9r9t5yy.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874ltr9hhs.fsf@i-ulialbion.it.manchester.ac.uk> (Dave Love's message of "Tue, 01 Aug 2017 21:10:23 +0100")
Hello Dave,
Sorry for the looong delay!
Dave Love <fx@gnu.org> skribis:
> Ludovic Courtès <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr> writes:
>
>>> Maybe, but what about the non-ABI compatibility I expect there is? (I
>>> don't know whether there's still any penalty from thread-multiple
>>> anyhow; I guess not, as I see it's not the default.)
>>
>> I propose this because you had written that the “performance penalty for
>> thread-multiple is supposed to be mitigated in the most recent openmpi.”
>> If it’s not, then fine.
>
> I don't know the value of "mitigated". I could ask or, better, measure
> when I get back from holiday (at least micro-benchmarks over
> Infiniband).
OK, makes sense. I asked an Open MPI developer here at work and they
confirmed that it’s reasonable to assume that thread-multiple support
has some overhead.
I went ahead and applied the patch you posted, minus the extra outputs,
and without ‘string-append’ in the description (which prevents l10n).
>> What do you have in mind for SLURM?
>
> There's integration with SLURM (--with-slurm), PBS/Torque, and LSF (or,
> I guess, Open Lava in the free world). I don't know much about them,
> but they build MCA modules. Unlike the gridengine support, they link
> against libraries for the resource managers, so you want them to be
> add-ons which are only installed when required (not like the Fedora
> packaging).
I see. I suppose we could make them separate outputs to avoid the
overhead, if that’s justified?
> I hope I can give useful feedback, and any criticism is meant
> constructively. However, I'm not representative of UK HPC people --
> happier to use functional Scheme than Python, and believing in packaging
> for a start!
Got it!
Thank you,
Ludo’.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-21 13:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-27 15:01 [bug#27850] gnu: mpi: openmpi: Don't enable thread-multiple Dave Love
2017-07-31 15:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-31 18:09 ` Dave Love
2017-08-01 9:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-08-01 16:06 ` Dave Love
2017-08-01 17:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-08-01 20:10 ` Dave Love
2017-08-21 13:17 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2017-08-23 11:08 ` Dave Love
2017-08-23 21:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-01 10:35 ` Dave Love
2017-09-01 22:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-07 16:16 ` Dave Love
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