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From: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, ng0@n0.is
Subject: Re: RISC-V port for GSoC?
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 19:42:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1vn727y.fsf@elephly.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lgg3vb1y.fsf_-_@gnu.org>


Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> To give some context, the issue is about the RISC-V port item at
> <https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/GSoC-2018>.
>
> I’m happy to help with Guix porting insight, but apart from that I’m not
> the most qualified person and I’d rather have someone else mentor it, if
> someone were to take this project.  Any takers?
>
> Actually I’m unsure how good of a project it is for GSoC.  GSoC is about
> development, but this one is not so much development, as Ricardo wrote
> in the context of Outreachy.

It’s difficult to mentor a project like that; a consequence is that it
doesn’t really fit into the framework of GSoC, where mentors need to
have some way of deciding if the student is still on track (and fail the
student if necessary).

For a project that is “follow the instructions” in the best case and
“wait for upstream to fix it” in the worst case, I really don’t feel
comfortable having this as a GSoC project.  Problems encountered in the
porting effort are unforeseeable and could be outside the student’s
means to work around them — what do we do then?  Fail the student?  Pass
them by default?  It doesn’t really make sense to me to have a project
that has big unknowns as dependencies.

My opinion is to remove it from the list of GSoC ideas.

> (RISC-V porting in itself does sound useful to me, just somewhat
> unsuitable for GSoC.)

Same here.

--
Ricardo

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-08 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87bmh4qrf5.fsf@abyayala.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
     [not found] ` <87bmh3kbd9.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-02-06 10:33   ` GSoC ng0
2018-02-08 11:25     ` GSoC ng0
2018-02-08 12:09       ` GSoC Gábor Boskovits
2018-02-08 12:31         ` GSoC ng0
2018-02-08 12:41           ` GSoC ng0
2018-02-08 13:57     ` RISC-V port for GSoC? Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-08 14:42       ` ng0
2018-02-08 18:42       ` Ricardo Wurmus [this message]
2018-02-08 19:19         ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-02-08 19:34         ` ng0
2018-02-08 22:25           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-08 16:42     ` ARM compilation via qemu binfmt - Assertion failure Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-10 23:45       ` Chris Marusich
2018-02-11  1:07         ` bug#30394: " Leo Famulari
2018-02-11  1:07         ` Leo Famulari
2018-02-11  9:53         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-02-16 10:35       ` bug#30394: " Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-16 10:35       ` Ludovic Courtès

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