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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: CDN Test Results - Should We Continue Using a CDN?
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:13:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87imwnserw.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877ed4dxgg.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:38:39 +0100")

Hello Ludovic!

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi Maxim,
>
> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:
>
>> Pardon me for asking, but how does using a CDN frees up resources?
>> Aren't the usual infrastructure preserved (e.g., ci.guix.info)? It
>> seems it'd be an extra layer to maintain?
>
> One of the motivations for this is that berlin.guixsd.org
> aka. ci.guix.info is a single machine, the head of our main build farm.
> If that machine goes down, we have no substitutes.  Having a cache like
> a CDN provides some redundancy: if the build farm goes down, we’ll at
> least still have cached substitutes, which leaves us time to fix the
> build farm.

I see. I understand that having the service continue running smoothly
while fixing ci.guix.info must be a good stress reliever.

[...]

>> I'd rather see this (even modest) amount put into the hands of a
>> motivated hacker to work on a distributed solution instead of
>> encouraging a company which do not share our free software ideals.
>
> As discussed before, I definitely sympathize with this.  Heck, if
> someone had told me I’d argue in favor of a CDN after all this time
> spent filling in CloudFare CAPTCHAs just because CloudFare decided that
> user privacy doesn’t matter and that Tor users should be penalized, I’d
> have laughed.  ;-)
>
> So it’s definitely not an easy decision.  Nevertheless, we have to
> acknowledge the fact that our current substitute delivery infrastructure
> is fragile.  If people volunteer to maintain a set of mirrors with some
> load balancing, that’s great, I’m all for it.  But for now, we don’t
> have that at all, hence the CDN.

Right. I understand better the motivation behind the CDN now, thank you
for taking the time to explain. Resiliency is indeed welcome and maybe
even necessary until better things come.

Maxim

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-13  2:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-11  3:47 CDN Test Results - Should We Continue Using a CDN? Chris Marusich
2019-03-11  8:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-11 15:16 ` mikadoZero
2019-03-11 16:11   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-11 19:25     ` mikadoZero
2019-03-12  0:57 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-03-12  3:21   ` Chris Marusich
2019-03-12 13:38   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-13  2:13     ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2019-03-14 20:12 ` Leo Famulari

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