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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>,
	"Christopher Baines" <mail@cbaines.net>,
	64151@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#64151] [PATCH] etc: Stop making sendemail behave strangely.
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:03:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ilb41gfb.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce3bf69ac098a41c7111c3f03f5e504e74052d8d.camel@gmail.com> (Liliana Marie Prikler's message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2023 06:30:15 +0200")

Hi Liliana,

Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com> writes:

> Am Dienstag, dem 27.06.2023 um 21:14 -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
>> Hi Liliana,
>> 
>> Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com> writes:
>> > Funny that you'd mention that because for me, debbugs notifications
>> > are pretty hit or miss.  A lot of them end up filtered by our
>> > benevolent overlords without me having ever read them.
>> 
>> Maybe you are mistaken about what X-Debbugs-CC does; it doesn't cause
>> someone to be subscribed to a specific issue; it's only a CC
>> alternative that is a bit nicer in that it will reply with the issue
>> number in the reply path, which is mostly useful for new issues that
>> haven't gotten a Debbugs number yet.  So I don't think we should
>> think of it as a "notification" mechanism, simply a smarter CC for
>> Debbugs.
> I am not.  Debbugs-CC'd mail simply ends up in the spam folder because
> Google sees that

OK, odd; I haven't noticed that kind of filtering using gmail.

>> > 
>> > I'd argue that it is wrong to magically install this configuration
>> > without any user interaction.  The current setup also causes quite
>> > a number of false positives, like a package rename also causing
>> > changes in some other scope and hence notifying like five different
>> > teams all at once.
>> 
>> I personally prefer the zero-config approach that maximizes the
>> potential of etc/teams.scm and reduces the documentation burden, but
>> of course I'm biased :-).  I find the contribution process of Guix
>> already complicated enough to not want to add more to it, and welcome
>> automation.
> There's nothing wrong with automation per se, but you are confusing
> automating your own process knowingly with automating someone else's
> process without their knowledge or permission.  I'd also argue that
> your approach doesn't maximize etc/teams.scm, but rather makes it
> exhibit the weirdest behaviours imaginable by applying it blindly.

What is weird?  People opt to be in a team to be notified; the default
git configuration when submitting patches causes the submission to
notify them when appropriate.  I don't understand how that qualifies as
as the "weirdest behaviour imaginable" ?

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim




  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-01  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-18 11:49 [bug#64151] [PATCH] etc: Stop making sendemail behave strangely Christopher Baines
2023-06-25 21:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-26 14:36   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-06-27 19:26     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-06-28  1:14       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-06-28  4:30         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-07-01  3:03           ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2023-07-01  5:50             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-07-01 16:03               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-07-03  9:36       ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-07-06 15:49         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-07-08 17:16           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-07-10  4:24             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-07-10 21:21               ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-07-11  4:28                 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-07-14 13:21                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-07-14 13:52                     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-07-14 14:12                       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-07-14 13:59                     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-07-17 13:02                       ` Christopher Baines
2023-07-17 16:43                         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-09-06  4:49                           ` bug#64151: " Maxim Cournoyer

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