From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: 66430@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#66430] [PATCH] doc: Mention the responsibilities that blocking comes with.
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2023 18:19:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87il6gyv6w.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pm1j7opm.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:08:53 -0400")
Hello!
Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:
[...]
>>> +@url{https://www.seedsforchange.org.uk/consensus}. The project uses the
>>> +@samp{Requiring people who block to help find solutions} block variant,
>>> +which means a participant wishing to block a proposal bears a
>>> +special responsibility for finding alternatives and proposing ideas/code
>>> +to resolve the deadlock.
>>
>> I’m unsure about this. A situation I have in mind is this: a volunteer
>> writes a review describing issues with a proposed change that have no
>> obvious solution, or rejecting the change altogether (for instance
>> because it’s deemed outside the scope of the project or tool).
>>
>> How would one interpret the reviewer’s responsibility in this case?
>
> It's a good question. Hopefully there'd be more than 2 persons
> participating in the conversation, in which case there may be some
> consensus emerging that the proposed change should be rejected. If
> there's no consensus at all and nobody is willing to iterate on the
> idea, then the issue should also be abandoned.
I think maintainers/committers have a responsibility that passersby do
not and cannot have: they must keep long-term maintenance in mind and
they define the project’s scope. A newcomer or occasional contributor
may not share that vision from the get-go.
> I submitted this change hoping to encourage active participation toward
> consensus, and to "raise the bar" for using a block, which should seldom
> be used according to the consensus guide. It'd be easy to otherwise
> abuse it, at the detriment of the group.
Yes, and I agree this is a worthy goal. My only concern would be if it
gives an incentive for maintainers/committers to never say “no”. Saying
“no” is an important part of this business. :-)
Ludo’.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-05 17:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-10 2:01 [bug#66430] [PATCH] doc: Mention the responsibilities that blocking comes with Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-10 3:49 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-11 9:30 ` [bug#66430] " Simon Tournier
2023-10-11 21:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-12 17:08 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-11-05 17:19 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2023-11-07 18:05 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-12 19:17 ` Simon Tournier
2023-10-12 20:18 ` [bug#66430] Wording v2 (was Re: [bug#66430] [PATCH] doc: Mention the responsibilities that blocking comes with.) Simon Tournier
2023-10-13 4:02 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-13 6:51 ` Simon Tournier
2023-10-13 4:02 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-13 14:38 ` [bug#66430] [PATCH v2] doc: Mention the responsibilities that blocking comes with Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-13 15:10 ` Simon Tournier
2023-10-14 13:05 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-14 13:06 ` [bug#66430] [PATCH v3] " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-31 9:34 ` Simon Tournier
2023-10-31 13:30 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-02 21:55 ` André Batista
2024-02-03 9:32 ` bug#66430: " Simon Tournier
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