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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Hector Sanjuan <code@hector.link>
Cc: Antoine Eiche <lewo@abesis.fr>,
	"go-ipfs-wg@ipfs.io" <go-ipfs-wg@ipfs.io>,
	Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>,
	"33899@debbugs.gnu.org" <33899@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: [bug#33899] [PATCH 0/5] Distributing substitutes over IPFS
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:24:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ef2rr6om.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HAv_FWZRa_dCADY6U07oX-E2vTrtcxk8ltkpfvTpYCsIh4O5PuItHGIh6w-g5GGmoqVEfkjDUOplpUErdGEPAiFYdrjjDhwd9RJ4OyjjGgY=@hector.link> (Hector Sanjuan's message of "Sun, 14 Jul 2019 22:31:43 +0000")

Hello Héctor!  :-)

Hector Sanjuan <code@hector.link> skribis:

> On Friday, July 12, 2019 10:15 PM, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:

[...]

>> > -   Pinning: Pinning all files separately incurs an overhead. It's
>> >     enough to just pin the IPLD object since it propagates recursively.
>> >     When adding a tree, then it's no problem since pinning is only done once.
>> >
>>
>> Where’s the overhead exactly?
>
> There are reasons why we are proposing to create a single DAG with an
> IPLD object at the root. Pinning has a big overhead because it
> involves locking, reading, parsing, and writing an internal pin-DAG. This
> is specially relevant when the pinset is very large.
>
> Doing multiple GET requests also has overhead, like being unable to use
> a single bitswap session (which, when downloading something new means a
> big overhead since every request will have to find providers).
>
> And it's not just the web view, it's the ability to walk/traverse all
> the object related to a given root natively, which allows also to compare
> multiple trees and to be more efficient for some things ("pin update"
> for example). Your original idea is to create a manifest with
> references to different parts. I'm just asking you to
> create that manifest in a format where those references are understood
> not only by you, the file creator, but by IPFS and any tool that can
> read IPLD, by making this a IPLD object (which is just a json).

OK, I see.  Put this way, it seems like creating a DAG with an IPLD
object as its root is pretty compelling.

Thanks for clarifying!

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-15  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-28 23:12 [bug#33899] [PATCH 0/5] Distributing substitutes over IPFS Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-28 23:15 ` [bug#33899] [PATCH 1/5] Add (guix json) Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-28 23:15   ` [bug#33899] [PATCH 2/5] tests: 'file=?' now recurses on directories Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-28 23:15   ` [bug#33899] [PATCH 3/5] Add (guix ipfs) Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-28 23:15   ` [bug#33899] [PATCH 4/5] publish: Add IPFS support Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-28 23:15   ` [bug#33899] [PATCH 5/5] DRAFT substitute: " Ludovic Courtès
2019-01-07 14:43 ` [bug#33899] [PATCH 0/5] Distributing substitutes over IPFS Hector Sanjuan
2019-01-14 13:17   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-01-18  9:08     ` Hector Sanjuan
2019-01-18  9:52       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-01-18 11:26         ` Hector Sanjuan
2019-07-01 21:36           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-07-06  8:44             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-07-12 20:02             ` Molly Mackinlay
2019-07-15  9:20               ` Alex Potsides
2019-07-12 20:15             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-07-14 22:31               ` Hector Sanjuan
2019-07-15  9:24                 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2019-07-15 10:10                   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-07-15 10:21                     ` Hector Sanjuan
2019-05-13 18:51 ` Alex Griffin
2020-12-29  9:59 ` [bug#33899] Ludo's patch rebased on master Maxime Devos
2021-06-06 17:54 ` [bug#33899] [PATCH 0/5] Distributing substitutes over IPFS Tony Olagbaiye

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