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From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
Cc: Matt <matt@excalamus.com>,
	Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@gmail.com>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guix wiki
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:27:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ee5eqhrc.fsf@nckx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86tuea2nxu.fsf@gmail.com>

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Hi Simon, all,

I'll give your long and thoughtful reply the attention it deserves 
when I have time, but there's another misleading tangent that has 
bothered me (elsewhere) in this discussion:

>  - cathedral, as it is today

This is revisionist.  The Bazaar model perfectly describes Guix, 
where everyone is free to submit changes and have them critiqued 
and revised in public.  Even maintainers are expected to submit. 
Changes that meet $criteria are merged into a source tree 
immediately available to everyone.

Guix has never used the Cathedral model, where patch submission 
and discussion happen behind closed doors, to be released unto the 
public as a revelation from on high.

‘People push nontrivial changes without review’ was never a 
condition of the Bazaar model or what made it successful.  The 
book was based on LKML, for heaven's sake!  :-)

We can find a cute new name for what's being proposed in this 
thread (the Wailing Wall model?), but simply declaring ‘the Bazaar 
is called Cathedral now, change my mind’ can't work.

Kind regards,

T G-R

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-11 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-09 21:14 Guix wiki Matt
2022-01-09 21:32 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-01-11 13:02   ` Matt
2022-01-11 18:29   ` Jonathan McHugh
2022-04-13 14:46   ` Aurora
2022-01-09 23:55 ` Vincent Legoll
2022-01-11 13:31   ` Matt
2022-01-11 15:17     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-01-12  2:52       ` Matt
2022-01-11 15:30     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-01-11 17:15       ` zimoun
2022-01-11 17:27         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice [this message]
2022-01-11 18:21           ` André A. Gomes
2022-01-11 18:50           ` zimoun
2022-01-12  2:06             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-01-12  8:55               ` zimoun
2022-01-12  9:22                 ` André A. Gomes
2022-01-12  3:51       ` Matt
2022-01-12 15:26         ` Luis Felipe
2022-01-11 16:48     ` Luis Felipe
2022-01-11 21:03     ` Attila Lendvai
2022-01-11 23:18       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-01-12  3:28         ` Matt
2022-01-18 14:34           ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-04-11  6:49             ` Attila Lendvai
2022-04-11  8:42               ` Maxime Devos
2022-04-13 15:01                 ` Attila Lendvai
2022-04-11  8:47               ` Maxime Devos
2022-01-12 11:19         ` Attila Lendvai
2022-01-12 11:52           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2022-01-12 12:00           ` André A. Gomes
2022-01-10  8:29 ` Josua Stingelin
2022-01-12  1:57   ` Matt
2022-01-12  9:19     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-01-10  9:55 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-01-17 19:17   ` Maxim Cournoyer

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