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From: EuAndreh via Bug reports for GNU Guix <bug-guix@gnu.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>, "Ricardo Wurmus" <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: GNU Guix maintainers <guix-maintainers@gnu.org>, 38529@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 06:44:34 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87blrqp2pp.fsf@euandre.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o8w1mxjt.fsf@gnu.org>

Hello :)

Jumping in the discussion xD

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Yes, I think it is clear that we’d have to do this using all the tools
> at our disposal, including time.
>
> Konrad’s objection remains though: existing documents (papers, blog
> posts, MOOCs, etc.) that mention ‘guix environment’ would all of a
> sudden become wrong if we were to change the defaults of ‘guix
> environment’.  Even if we introduce a variable to restore the old
> behavior.
>
> Perhaps that’s unavoidable in the long run, but perhaps this is not the
> right time for this.

Wouldn't having a new name for the new behaviour avoid breakage in this
situation?

Suppose the path of adding new subcommand is chosen, and it is "guix
shell". Couldn't it adopt the new desired behaviour?

  guix shell foo --inputs-of bar     # new command
  guix environment bar --ad-hoc foo  # untouched old command

After the introduction of "guix shell", "guix environment" could become
deprecated, but no current usage of it would stop working, and no public
references to it in the internet would become misleading. "guix
environment" could say that is has been deprecated, and point to "guix
shell", but keep working the same way.

If desired, "guix environment" could be removed after X time of
deprecation has passed, but that would be optional.

What are the downsides? Am I missing something?

Thanks,
euandreh.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-30  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-08 15:42 bug#38529: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'? Pierre Neidhardt
2019-12-08 21:03 ` zimoun
2019-12-09 18:46   ` Thompson, David
2019-12-09 20:17     ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-10 17:16     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 17:27       ` raingloom
2020-11-03 17:38       ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-11-03 18:35         ` zimoun
2020-11-06  9:03         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-04  9:43       ` Taylan Kammer
2020-11-04 16:05         ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-12-12 11:23   ` bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-12 11:23   ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-12 16:47     ` bug#38529: " zimoun
2019-12-12 16:47     ` zimoun
2019-12-12 20:54       ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-13 12:02         ` zimoun
2019-12-13 16:27           ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-13 16:32             ` zimoun
2019-12-13 16:41               ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-14 18:11               ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-12-16 22:09             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-17  6:49               ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-17  6:49               ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-17  9:14                 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-17  9:14                 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-17 13:33                   ` Kyle Meyer
2019-12-17 14:22                     ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-17 14:22                     ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-17 13:33                   ` Kyle Meyer
2019-12-17 22:30                   ` Bengt Richter
2019-12-17 23:21                     ` Bengt Richter
2019-12-17 23:21                     ` Bengt Richter
2019-12-17 22:30                   ` Bengt Richter
2019-12-17 17:07                 ` zimoun
2019-12-17 17:07                 ` zimoun
2019-12-18  9:43                   ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-18 13:09                     ` zimoun
2019-12-20 11:24                       ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-20 11:24                       ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-20 12:03                         ` zimoun
2019-12-20 21:08                           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-23  9:28                             ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-12-23  9:28                             ` Danny Milosavljevic
2020-01-02  9:49                             ` Andy Wingo
2019-12-18 13:09                     ` zimoun
2019-12-18 20:55                     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-19 11:30                       ` zimoun
2019-12-19 21:39                         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-19 22:40                           ` zimoun
2019-12-20  1:37                             ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-20 11:40                               ` zimoun
2019-12-20 21:31                                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-21  8:40                                   ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-21 16:51                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30  9:44                                     ` EuAndreh via Bug reports for GNU Guix [this message]
2019-12-30 10:34                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 12:03                                         ` zimoun
2019-12-30 15:06                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 17:55                                             ` zimoun
2019-12-30 21:10                                               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-30 21:32                                                 ` zimoun
2019-12-31 18:09                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-31 19:09                                                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-01 19:23                                                     ` zimoun
2019-12-20 23:02                                 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-21  0:04                                   ` zimoun
2019-12-20 21:12                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-21 15:18                       ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-21 15:18                       ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-20 21:12                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-18  9:43                   ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-19 16:31                 ` bug#38529: Deprecating ‘guix environment’? Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-19 16:31                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-19 22:48                   ` bug#38529: " zimoun
2019-12-19 22:48                   ` zimoun
2019-12-20 11:17                   ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-20 13:21                     ` zimoun
2019-12-20 13:21                     ` bug#38529: " zimoun
2019-12-20 11:17                   ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-16 22:09             ` bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-12 20:54       ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-08 22:43 ` bug#38529: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'? Leo Famulari
2019-12-09  5:23 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-08-19 14:28   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-12-09 17:37 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-12-12 19:33   ` zimoun

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