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From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
Cc: Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Public guix offload server
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 18:31:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6j272oz.fsf@nckx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864k9ag5k0.fsf@gmail.com>

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Hi Simon,

zimoun 写道:
> If I understand correctly, if a committer offloads to say Berlin 
> or
> Bayfront, your concern is that the output will be in the 
> publicly
> exposed store.  Right?

No, that would be far worse.  I'm considering only a ‘private’ 
offload server shared by several trusted users, where one 
compromised (whether technically or mentally :-) user can easily 
‘infect’ other contributors in a way that's very hard to detect. 
‘Trusting trust’ comes to mind.

> For instance, one could imagine a dedicated VM for all the 
> committers
> who require some CPU power.

Right, that's what I'm describing in my previous mail.

Now, we could spin up a separate VM for each user, and just take 
the efficiency hit…  Users would be safe from anything but 
VM-escape exploits (which exist but are rare).

> A minimal job submission API with token would be ideal, IMHO. 
> But it
> falls into:
>
>         Now is better than never.
>         Although never is often better than *right* now.
>
>                                     – python -c 'import this' –

What does this mean?

Kind regards,

T G-R

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-21 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-20 20:53 Public guix offload server Arun Isaac
2021-10-20 21:06 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-20 22:54   ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-21 16:46     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-21  8:12   ` zimoun
2021-10-21 16:31     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice [this message]
2021-10-21 18:04       ` zimoun
2021-10-21 21:15       ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-10-21 21:51         ` zimoun
2021-10-21 22:16           ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-22  7:33             ` zimoun
2021-10-23  5:49               ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-23  7:23                 ` zimoun
2021-10-24  6:43                   ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-25  9:27                     ` indieterminacy
2021-10-22  7:23           ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-10-21 20:23   ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-29 12:04     ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-29 12:01   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-20 22:56 ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-21 15:49   ` Joshua Branson
2021-10-21 16:41     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-21 17:22     ` Vagrant Cascadian
2021-10-29 12:06       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-29 12:44         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-21 23:40     ` jbranso

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