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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Public guix offload server
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:33:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86r1cdzf74.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtn256it.fsf@nckx>

Hi Tobias,

I understand your point of view.

On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 00:16, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> Trusting people not to be evil is not the same as having to trust 
> the opsec habits of every single one of them.  Trust isn't 
> transitive.  Personally, I don't think a rogue zimoun will 
> suddenly decide to abuse us.  I think rogues will abuse zimoun the 
> very first chance they get.

From my understanding, here is the net of our “disagreement”.

> That's not a matter of degree: it's a whole different threat 
> model, as is injecting arbitrary binaries vs. pushing malicious 
> code commits.  Both are bad news, but there's an order of 
> magnitude difference between the two.

And I miss the threat model about “injecting binaries” in the case of
shared offload.  Anyway. :-)

Let move forward and discuss another solution than the usual offload.

You pointed the idea «one might consider dropping SSH account-based
access in favour of a minimal job submission API, and just return the
results through guix publish or so…?  OTOH, that's yet another code
path.»

Imagine another Cuirass instance where any committer could add [1] their
own branch.  It would act as this minimal job submission API.

1: <https://ci.guix.gnu.org/specification/add/>

The questions are the authentication to this Cuirass instance and how
Cuirass deals with rebased branch (which would happen).

WDYT?


Cheers,
simon


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-22  7:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-20 20:53 Public guix offload server Arun Isaac
2021-10-20 21:06 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-20 22:54   ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-21 16:46     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-21  8:12   ` zimoun
2021-10-21 16:31     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-21 18:04       ` zimoun
2021-10-21 21:15       ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-10-21 21:51         ` zimoun
2021-10-21 22:16           ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-22  7:33             ` zimoun [this message]
2021-10-23  5:49               ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-23  7:23                 ` zimoun
2021-10-24  6:43                   ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-25  9:27                     ` indieterminacy
2021-10-22  7:23           ` Jonathan McHugh
2021-10-21 20:23   ` Arun Isaac
2021-10-29 12:04     ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-29 12:01   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-20 22:56 ` Leo Famulari
2021-10-21 15:49   ` Joshua Branson
2021-10-21 16:41     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-21 17:22     ` Vagrant Cascadian
2021-10-29 12:06       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-29 12:44         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2021-10-21 23:40     ` jbranso

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