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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
Cc: Bruno Victal <mirai@makinata.eu>, 66426@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#66426] [PATCH 00/65] Export %default-gnu-imported-modules and %default-gnu-modules.
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 10:36:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878r8a5ytu.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <833f6e7be42b6fd505d2cdd401e93f0d9b64bab7.camel@gmail.com> (Liliana Marie Prikler's message of "Tue, 10 Oct 2023 06:14:36 +0200")

Hi Liliana,

Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com> writes:

> Am Montag, dem 09.10.2023 um 21:31 -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
>> Hi Liliana,
>> 
>> Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com> writes:
>> > Hmm, at the very least I'd like to bikeshed the variable names,
>> > hence my suggestion to encode it into the build system itself,
>> > which would allow any name locally.  %default-anything reads weird
>> > to me, plus it's a mouthful for imported modules.
>> 
>> It seems conventional to me: we have %default-subtitute-urls,
>> %default-channels, %default-include (thousands of matches for
>> '%default-' upon grepping).
> Fair enough, but in the cases you've named it's still %default for more
> than one build system.  Or do you by extension want %default-glib-or-
> gtk-imported-modules?  That's quite a mouthful imho without any
> additional semantics.

That's what I was thinking to in the future yes; add
%default-glib-or-gtk-imported-modules as well as
%default-glib-or-gtk-modules, %default-cmake-imported-modules and
%default-cmake-modules, etc.

The variable names may be somewhat long, but they are not used often and
they should be easy to auto-complete.

>> > WDYT about %gnu-build-modules and %gnu-build-system-modules, where
>> > %gnu-build-system-modules keeps its current intent for being
>> > imported?
>> > Alternatively we could also rename it to %gnu-build-imported-
>> > modules
>> > with a deprecated alias.
>> 
>> People have been adding %gnu-build-system-modules to #:modules
>> erroneously.  Not renaming that would ensure this keeps happening.
>> Having 'imported-modules' in the name seems like it'd make things a
>> bit easier to remember; thus, I think the proposed naming is
>> adequate?
> Perhaps, but I think %gnu-build-modules and %gnu-build-imported-modules
> is better even with that reasoning.

So we'd use for example %glib-or-gtk-build-imported-modules?  The
difference is small to what I proposed (swap the leading default for an
in-middle 'build' -- 2 characters), so I don't think your 'mouthful'
argument holds, but I don't have much of an issue with it, except
perhaps that 'build' is not directly attached to the module namespace,
which is (guix build-systems gnu) for example.

I still prefer my naming, but yeah, we're choosing the color of the bike
shed :-).  If others could tip in, that may help decide, otherwise I'd
prefer leaving it as-is.  Does that sound reasonable?

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim




  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-10 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-13 18:00 bug#65924: git searches coreutils and util-linux commands in PATH Maxim Cournoyer
2023-09-13 22:27 ` Simon Tournier
2023-09-14  3:14   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-09-14  6:12     ` Simon Tournier
2023-10-04 16:14 ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-04 16:52   ` Simon Tournier
2023-10-05  3:41   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-05 16:21     ` Simon Tournier
2023-10-08  3:18 ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 0/3] Fix 'git submodule' in pure environments Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-08  3:18   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 1/3] gnu: git: Remove labels and use gexps Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-08  7:09     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-10-14 16:51     ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-15 19:55       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-08  3:18   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 2/3] gnu: git: Invert inheritance relationship Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-08  7:03     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-10-09 14:21       ` bug#65924: git searches coreutils and util-linux commands in PATH Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:49         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-10-09 18:21           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 18:33             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-10-09 19:25               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 19:28                 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-10-09 19:44                   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 21:03               ` bokr
2023-10-10  4:28                 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-10-09 19:17           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-14 16:54     ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 2/3] gnu: git: Invert inheritance relationship Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-08  3:18   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 3/3] gnu: git-minimal: Add coreutils and sed to PATH Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-14 17:01     ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-10-15 20:03       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-17 15:15       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:28 ` bug#65924: [PATCH 00/65] Export %default-gnu-imported-modules and %default-gnu-modules Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:28   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 02/65] gnu: acl: Remove labels and trailing #t Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:28   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 03/65] gnu: acl: Import the correct set of modules Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:28   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 04/65] gnu: dirvish: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:28   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 05/65] gnu: fio: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:28   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 06/65] gnu: ccwl: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:28   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 07/65] gnu: boost: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:28   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 08/65] gnu: gcc-final: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:28   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 09/65] gnu: epson-inkjet-printer-escpr: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:28   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 10/65] gnu: splix: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:36   ` bug#65924: git searches coreutils and util-linux commands in PATH Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 01/65] build-systems: gnu: Export %default-gnu-imported-modules and %default-gnu-modules Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 11/65] gnu: guile-curl: Import the correct set of modules Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 12/65] gnu: dpkg: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 13/65] gnu: dezyne: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 14/65] gnu: fastcap: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 15/65] gnu: fasthenry: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 16/65] gnu: seabios-qemu: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 17/65] gnu: font-amiri: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 18/65] gnu: xdg-utils: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 19/65] gnu: tsukundere: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 20/65] gnu: gcc-4.9: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 21/65] gnu: make-libstdc++: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 22/65] gnu: custom-gcc: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 23/65] gnu: gdb: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 24/65] gnu: genimage: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 25/65] gnu: gimp: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 26/65] gnu: pinentry-rofi: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 27/65] gnu: mozjs: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 28/65] gnu: icecat-minimal: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 29/65] gnu: icedove-minimal: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:37   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 30/65] gnu: python-graph-tool: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 31/65] gnu: artanis: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 32/65] gnu: guilescript: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 33/65] gnu: guile-dsv: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 34/65] gnu: guile-di: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 35/65] gnu: guile-hall: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 36/65] gnu: haunt: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 37/65] gnu: guile-studio: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 38/65] gnu: guile-libyaml: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 39/65] gnu: guile-gitlab: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 40/65] gnu: guile-smc: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 41/65] gnu: rime-data: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 42/65] gnu: jbigkit: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 43/65] gnu: uftrace: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 44/65] gnu: mdadm-static: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 45/65] gnu: ecryptfs-utils: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 46/65] gnu: ghmm: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 47/65] gnu: %gcc-static: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 48/65] gnu: mumps: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 49/65] gnu: hypre: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 50/65] gnu: lingeling: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 51/65] gnu: guix-build-coordinator: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 52/65] gnu: nar-herder: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 53/65] gnu: python-sip-4: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 54/65] gnu: ratpoison: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 55/65] gnu: stklos: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 56/65] gnu: python-sepolgen: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 57/65] gnu: boxes: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 58/65] gnu: simh: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 59/65] gnu: stb: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 60/65] gnu: info-reader: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 61/65] gnu: git: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 62/65] gnu: ffmpeg-3.4: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 63/65] gnu: qemu: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 64/65] gnu: ganeti: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 16:38   ` bug#65924: [PATCH core-updates 65/65] gnu: criu: " Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 18:18   ` [bug#66426] [PATCH 00/65] Export %default-gnu-imported-modules and %default-gnu-modules Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-10-09 19:36     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-09 19:45       ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-10-10  1:31         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-10  4:14           ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-10-10 14:36             ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2023-10-16 15:28               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-10-19  4:04                 ` bug#66426: " Maxim Cournoyer

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