From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Carlo Zancanaro <carlo@zancanaro.id.au>
Subject: Re: Improving Shepherd
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 14:22:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874lmq2t8e.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180205170011.73780f13@scratchpost.org> (Danny Milosavljevic's message of "Mon, 5 Feb 2018 17:00:11 +0100")
Hey!
Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org> skribis:
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 21:49:08 +1100
> Carlo Zancanaro <carlo@zancanaro.id.au> wrote:
>
>> User services - Alex has already sent a patch to the list to allow
>> generating user services from the Guix side. The idea is to
>> generate a Shepherd config file, allowing a user to invoke
>> shepherd manually to start their services.
>
>>A further extension to
>> this would be to have something like systemd's "user sessions",
>> where the pid 1 Shepherd automatically starts a user's services
>> when they log in.
>
> I assume that means "starts a user's shepherd when they log in".
>
> elogind already emits a signal on dbus which tells you when a user logged in
>
> return sd_bus_emit_signal(
> u->manager->bus,
> "/org/freedesktop/login1",
> "org.freedesktop.login1.Manager",
> new_user ? "UserNew" : "UserRemoved",
> "uo", (uint32_t) u->uid, p);
I think there’s Guile D-Bus client though. Another yak to shave…
> Also, a directory /run/user/<id> appears - which alternatively can be
> monitored by inotify or something.
>
> So the system shepherd could have a shepherd service which does
>
> while (1) {
> wait until /run/user/<id> appears
> vfork
> if child: setuid, exec user shepherd, _exit
> if parent: wait until child dies
> }
>
> We better be sure that no one else can create directories in /run/user .
>
> In non-pseudocode, both "wait until /run/user/<id> appears" and
> "wait until child dies" would have to be in the same call,
> maybe epoll or something.
Yes, inotify (ISTR there *are* inotify bindings for Guile somewhere.)
> Maybe call the service shepherd-nursery-service or something, like a star
> nursery :)
:-)
Ludo’.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-02-09 13:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-29 21:14 Improving Shepherd Carlo Zancanaro
2018-01-29 22:27 ` Jelle Licht
2018-02-05 10:49 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-02-05 13:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-05 15:56 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-02-09 13:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-09 19:50 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-02-09 21:32 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-02-14 13:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-15 13:55 ` Andy Wingo
2018-02-10 13:34 ` Jelle Licht
2018-02-14 13:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-02-15 17:05 ` Jelle Licht
2018-02-15 19:04 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-02-05 16:00 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2018-02-05 16:41 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-02-09 13:22 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2018-02-09 20:51 ` David Pirotte
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=874lmq2t8e.fsf@gnu.org \
--to=ludo@gnu.org \
--cc=carlo@zancanaro.id.au \
--cc=dannym@scratchpost.org \
--cc=guix-devel@gnu.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.