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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@reproducible-builds.org>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>, "Guix Devel" <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Set FORCE_SOURCE_DATE=1 by default
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 13:41:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735fw61ek.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87edzgu402.fsf@contorta> (Vagrant Cascadian's message of "Wed, 22 Jun 2022 08:11:57 -0700")

Hi Vagrant,

Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@reproducible-builds.org> writes:

> On 2022-06-22, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@reproducible-builds.org> skribis:
>>
>>> On 2022-06-21, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> I'd much prefer challenging that stance than "endorsing" it in Guix :-).
>>>> I think it'd be OK to reluctantly add it in as a stop-gap fix in Guix,
>>>> but *only* after opening an issue to discuss it upstream and linking to
>>>> that issue in Guix.
>>>
>>> I get it. I really do. It kind of grates at me every time I think about
>>> this.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Another option would be to patch TeX Live, assuming the
>> FORCE_SOURCE_DATE bit is well isolated in a single file.  Would that
>> seem reasonable/feasible/desirable to you, Vagrant?
>
> Only problem I see is indefinitely maintaining a patch to TeX Live that
> upstream is unlikely to take ... but other than that, this sounds great!

I wouldn't expect this simple substitution should be too difficult to
maintain :-).

> We'd also get a clearer idea of which packages are affected, rather than
> setting it globally and rebuilding everything...

I don't think it's of critical importance; what we care about here is
having the software reproducible, not knowing exactly which esoteric
environment variable enabled it.

> I'll also try to dig up at least one of the threads where there was some
> discussion with upstream... hopefully without getting too caught up in
> that old rabbit hole.

That'd be nice.

Thanks!

Maxim


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-22 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-10 23:53 Set FORCE_SOURCE_DATE=1 by default Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-15  8:58 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-15 16:24   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-21 20:48   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-21 21:06     ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-22  3:57 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-06-22  6:08   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-22 13:53     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-22 15:11       ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-22 17:41         ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2022-06-22 13:59     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-06-23  1:03       ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-23 16:44         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-07-03  1:58           ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-04 13:14             ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-08-12 15:32               ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-22 15:16 ` Time namespace for build sandbox (was Re: Set FORCE_SOURCE_DATE=1 by default) Zhu Zihao
2022-06-22 15:35   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-22 16:41   ` Maxime Devos

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