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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net>
Cc: 28128@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#28128] [PATCH 2/2] scripts: system: Support container network sharing.
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 18:29:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871s2y7r71.fsf@inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170817191334.26269-1-mail@cbaines.net>

Hi Arun & Chris,

Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net> skribis:

>> It’s not easily possible, and I think it would be a bad idea: if every
>> service has access to every ‘operating-system’ field, that gives you
>> more flexibility, but it’s also much harder to reason about what
>> happens, compared to the current extension graph (the NixOS “module”
>> system works like that: every service can access every bit of the whole
>> configuration, but IMO that makes it quite hard to understand.)
>
> OK, I understand. Just out of curiosity: Why do we have special
> operating-system fields like host-name, hosts-file, etc. instead of just
> having services like host-name-service-type, hosts-file-service-type,
> etc.? Doesn't giving special status to these operating-system fields
> complicate things? For example, if we only had a hosts-file-service-type
> instead of a hosts-file operating-system field, we wouldn't have the
> problem that /etc/hosts could only be created from within
> essential-services.

You’re right, to some extent those fields complicate things (most of
them were here before the service infrastructure, though.)  OTOH I find
it convenient to have a high-level view of the OS.

>> What could be useful is “self-referential” records, where a field can
>> refer to the record it belongs do.  So we’d do:
>>
>>   (define-record-type* <operating-system>
>>     ;; …
>>     (services operating-system-services
>>               (self-referential? #t) (default essential-services)))
>>
>> whereby ‘essential-services’ would be passed the <operating-system>
>> record somehow.
>>
>> That needs more thought…
>
> OK, I'll wait.

I didn’t mean to block you though because it was just an idea without
code…  but in the meantime I’ve sent code to
<https://issues.guix.info/issue/34948>.  It turned out to be easier than
I thought!

Ludo’.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-22 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-17 19:13 [bug#28128] [PATCH] scripts: system: Add support for container network sharing Christopher Baines
2017-09-04 21:47 ` Christopher Baines
2017-09-19 21:39   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-20  7:04     ` Christopher Baines
2019-02-19  7:46 ` Arun Isaac
2019-02-19 21:50   ` Christopher Baines
2019-02-20 11:57   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-02-20 19:22     ` Arun Isaac
2019-03-04 13:38   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-08 10:51     ` Arun Isaac
2019-03-10 17:20       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-11 18:52         ` Arun Isaac
2019-03-13  9:36 ` [bug#28128] [PATCH 0/2] Support " Arun Isaac
2019-03-13  9:36   ` [bug#28128] [PATCH 1/2] shepherd: Move nscd-socket to (gnu system file-systems) Arun Isaac
2019-03-13  9:36   ` [bug#28128] [PATCH 2/2] scripts: system: Support container network sharing Arun Isaac
2019-03-13 11:34     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-14 20:11       ` Arun Isaac
2019-03-18  8:37         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-21 10:17           ` Arun Isaac
2019-03-22 17:29 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2019-03-25 20:37   ` Arun Isaac
2019-05-10 12:54     ` Arun Isaac
2019-05-12 21:23       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-13  8:30         ` Arun Isaac
2019-05-13 13:43           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-13 21:26             ` bug#28128: " Arun Isaac
2019-05-14  7:02               ` [bug#28128] " Christopher Baines
2019-05-14  9:00                 ` Arun Isaac

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