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From: Ian Eure <ian@retrospec.tv>
To: "Clément Lassieur" <clement@lassieur.org>
Cc: 67512@debbugs.gnu.org, Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>,
	Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
Subject: [bug#67512] [PATCH v4 3/4] gnu: Add wasm packages.
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2024 08:09:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871q9bdpn3.fsf@retrospec.tv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877cj4fpo6.fsf@lassieur.org>


Clément Lassieur <clement@lassieur.org> writes:

> On Tue, Feb 13 2024, Ian Eure wrote:
>
>> D. Fold the new (gnu packages wasm) into (gnu packages 
>> librewolf). This is the
>> only place they’re used, but it sounds like there’s desire to 
>> port some of the
>> other firefoxen to this stuff, so probably not a good long-term 
>> option.
>
> Does Librewolf depend on the Wasm packages more than the other 
> Firefox
> based browsers?

Upstream Librewolf doesn’t depend on the WASM packages more than 
any other Firefoxen.  I believe that WASM sandboxing is an 
optional feature for recent Firefox and FF-derived browsers.


In case anyone reading this isn’t familiar: Firefox has taken some 
libraries that handle untrusted data (which are implemented in 
C/C++) and complied those WASM, which it runs in isolated 
sandboxes.  The idea being that if there’s a vulnerability in one 
of those libraries, the impact will be diminished becasue the 
exploit runs in an environment with very limited privileges[1].


> My point is that if your Librewolf package is independent from 
> the Wasm packages, they can be split and reviewed independently.

The Librewolf package I’m submitting depends on these WASM 
packages; other Firefox-derived browsers currently in Guix don’t 
(because they can’t, because the toolchain isn’t in Guix).


> That would make the Librewolf review shorter and easier, and the 
> Wasm
> review more consistent and easy to test.  Also, adding Wasm to 
> our
> Firefox based browsers would be a one-shot.  (Of course it 
> doesn't have
> to be included in Icecat, but I think it would be great to have 
> it in
> ‘make-torbrowser’.)
>

I’m not sure what you mean by "adding Wasm to our Firefox based 
browsers would be a one-shot."  Are you saying you want a process 
like:

1a. Get wasm toolchain stuff merged.
1b. Get Librewolf merged without WASM sandboxing.
2. Update icecat, torbrowser, mullvad, and librewolf to use WASM 
sandboxing.

Thanks,

  — Ian

[1]: See 
https://hacks.mozilla.org/2020/02/securing-firefox-with-webassembly/ 
and 
https://blog.mozilla.org/attack-and-defense/2021/12/06/webassembly-and-back-again-fine-grained-sandboxing-in-firefox-95/ 
for more on this.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-17 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-28 20:09 [bug#67512] [PATCH 0/5] Add LibreWolf Ian Eure
2023-11-28 20:13 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH 1/5] gnu: icu4c: Update to 73.1 Ian Eure
2023-11-28 20:13 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH 2/5] gnu: Add icu4c-71 Ian Eure
2023-11-28 20:13 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH 3/5] gnu: node: Switch to icu4c-71 Ian Eure
2023-11-28 20:13 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH 4/5] gnu: Add wasm packages Ian Eure
2023-11-28 20:13 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH 5/5] gnu: Add librewolf Ian Eure
2023-12-10 21:57 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH 0/5] Add LibreWolf Ludovic Courtès
2023-12-10 22:28   ` Ian Eure
2023-12-14 18:39     ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-01-13 17:53 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH 5/5] gnu: Add librewolf Herman Rimm via Guix-patches via
2024-01-28 21:23   ` Ian Eure
2024-01-28 22:51     ` Ian Eure
2024-02-02 18:44     ` Herman Rimm via Guix-patches via
2024-02-06 23:29       ` Ian Eure
2024-02-07 10:06         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-01-17 15:43 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH 0/5] Add LibreWolf Clément Lassieur
2024-02-17 16:06   ` Ian Eure
2024-02-11 19:20 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v2 0/4] Add Librewolf Ian Eure
2024-02-11 20:22   ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-11 23:23     ` Ian Eure
2024-02-11 23:32       ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-11 19:20 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v2 1/4] gnu: Move icu4c-73 from gnuzilla to icu4c Ian Eure
2024-02-11 21:40   ` Mark H Weaver
2024-02-11 22:14   ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-11 23:23     ` Ian Eure
2024-02-11 23:34       ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-11 19:20 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v2 2/4] gnu: nss: Update to 3.97 Ian Eure
2024-02-11 19:20 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v2 3/4] gnu: Add wasm packages Ian Eure
2024-02-11 19:20 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v2 4/4] gnu: Add librewolf Ian Eure
2024-02-11 23:49 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v3 1/4] gnu: Move icu4c-73 from gnuzilla to icu4c Ian Eure
2024-02-11 23:49 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v3 2/4] gnu: nss: Update to 3.97 Ian Eure
2024-02-11 23:49 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v3 3/4] gnu: Add wasm packages Ian Eure
2024-02-11 23:49 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v3 4/4] gnu: Add librewolf Ian Eure
2024-02-13 20:34 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v4 0/4] Add LibreWolf Ian Eure
2024-02-13 20:34   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v4 1/4] gnu: Move icu4c-73 from gnuzilla to icu4c Ian Eure
2024-02-14 18:05     ` Mark H Weaver
2024-02-16 14:02       ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-17 16:07         ` Ian Eure
2024-02-21 11:49           ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-22  1:07             ` Ian Eure
2024-02-22 10:21               ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-22 14:34                 ` Mark H Weaver
2024-02-23  0:56                   ` Ian Eure
2024-02-13 20:34   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v4 2/4] gnu: nss: Update to 3.97 Ian Eure
2024-02-13 20:34   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v4 3/4] gnu: Add wasm packages Ian Eure
2024-02-13 22:41     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-02-13 23:22       ` Ian Eure
2024-02-16 14:29         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-16 21:48           ` Mark H Weaver
2024-02-17 16:09           ` Ian Eure [this message]
2024-02-21  2:00             ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-21  2:18               ` Ian Eure
2024-02-21  5:20                 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-02-21 11:45                   ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-22  0:07                     ` Ian Eure
2024-02-22 10:19                       ` Clément Lassieur
2024-03-09 21:20                         ` Ian Eure
2024-02-21 14:32               ` Mark H Weaver
2024-02-13 20:34   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v4 4/4] gnu: Add librewolf Ian Eure
2024-02-25  0:53 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v5 0/2] Add LibreWolf Ian Eure
2024-02-25  0:53   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v5 1/2] gnu: nss: Update to 3.97 Ian Eure
2024-02-25  0:53   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v5 2/2] gnu: Add librewolf Ian Eure
2024-03-13  9:07 ` [bug#67512] Feedback for Librewolf package Romain Garbage
2024-03-15 14:05   ` Ian Eure
2024-03-29 22:34 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v6 0/2] Add LibreWolf Ian Eure
2024-03-29 22:34   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v6 1/2] gnu: nss: Update to 3.98 Ian Eure
2024-03-29 22:34   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v6 2/2] gnu: Add librewolf Ian Eure
2024-04-06 15:04 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v7 0/3] Add LibreWolf Ian Eure
2024-04-06 15:04   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v7 1/3] gnu: Add nss-3.98 Ian Eure
2024-04-06 15:04   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v7 2/3] gnu: Add nss-certs-3.98 Ian Eure
2024-04-06 15:04   ` [bug#67512] [PATCH v7 3/3] gnu: Add librewolf Ian Eure
2024-04-12 13:11   ` bug#67512: [PATCH v7 0/3] Add LibreWolf Andrew Tropin via Guix-patches via
2024-04-27 10:46     ` [bug#67512] " Clément Lassieur
2024-04-27 17:19       ` bug#67512: " Ian Eure
2024-04-27 18:21         ` [bug#67512] " Ian Eure
2024-04-28  8:59           ` Clément Lassieur
2024-04-12 11:32 ` [bug#67512] [PATCH 0/5] " Sharlatan Hellseher

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